Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Madd_Maxx
Originally posted by UnderDogs



Well everyone on my team knows how to build so a blind monkey could probably run our defense. It's really about builds more than you're letting on.

You can be a great DC all day long, but the builds have to be able to do what you want them to, first and foremost.

well, thats no different than real football, the better the player, the better opportunity for results. But the primary DC's job is to find the best matchups for your defense. If you have a great pass rushing DT and you shift a 4-3 defense to the left on 3rd and long, your great pass rusher has been neutralized now that he will be double teamed by the center and LG. Granted, may benefit the LDE, but if he isnt a strength all you have done is eliminated the one Dlineman that can get to the QB. A DC's play calling makes a bigger difference than many may know.

True enough, I was just responding the fact he pretty much tried to nullify builds over play calling.

I tend to think itīs a little of both. The coach has to know what heīs doing and get his players into the best position to succeed. But ionce he does, itīs build vs build and not everyone can be the winner.

Originally posted by BSUblemler
Originally posted by Motiak

Originally posted by BSUblemler


Originally posted by maz621



Originally posted by Primus




My lvl 55 agility DT is doing fuck all. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=109471 build open because it doesnt matter anyway. he does get a lot of pancakes, so hes got that going for him. i am pretty sure his agility is higher than most interior OLs he faces but he couldnt break a block to save his mothers life.

need more speed more agility more shed block

I totally disagree. My DT is having a pretty good year, yes he has racked up some stats against blown up teams but I'm happy. I've said this before and I'll say it again - at this point in the game, your guy could easily have 30+ sacks as a DT if the D-coordinator was using the custom play creator. The DC needs to put guys in a position to make plays and a lot of them AREN'T doing that. Its not your builds fault, its the fault of your Coordinators. Sorry to point a finger but its true.

You have three sacks in non-blowout wins. DCs help, but build trumps all.

At what point did I say I had a ton of sacks? Does anyone read these posts? Jesus, people are just out to bash and not look at the point of the statement. Builds are good, but game planning turns good builds into dominant teams.

You disagreed with one of the best DTs in the game and used your DT as an example. It wasn't bashing, it was stating fact that what you used as evidence doesn't hold up.

Mine put up his usual career averages, so it seemed the same.

Mine had a pretty shit ass season as well.

Originally posted by Chaos Knight
Mine put up his usual career averages, so it seemed the same.

A majority of agility DTs I've seen have at least regressed a bit. Yours got better. Any idea why? What were your VAs then and what are they now?

Statistically this was a down season for my agility DT. It's difficult to say how much extenuating circumstances played into it though. For instance my team's new defense, positions the DT so that he's double teamed by the LG and C, making individual stats a challenge, case in point... http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473835&pbp_id=17911918 Limited plays could also be part of it, since we've been splitting snaps between 3 DT's.

He still managed to finish 3rd in the overall defensive MVP race, and 1st among DT's despite some stiff competition in our conference from excellent DT's such as Adam Avalanche, Duece Mick, Randy Raider, Art Donovon, Dan Dakota etc.

The playoffs are looking up though, with 6 sacks, 4 FF's, 9 tackles, and 3 hurries in our first game. Whether that's partially due to further stun tweaking or just a weak o-line I don't really know.

Originally posted by Saris
The playoffs are looking up though, with 6 sacks, 4 FF's, 9 tackles, and 3 hurries in our first game. Whether that's partially due to further stun tweaking or just a weak o-line I don't really know.

Probably a combination of your DT being a beast and a weak OL as you had great success against that team in the regular season too.

I think agility DTs' big struggle remains trying to get attributes up to the point that they were at before the attribute VA nerfs. We took the hit probably worse than any other position in that regard.

Originally posted by Motiak

I think agility DTs' big struggle remains trying to get attributes up to the point that they were at before the attribute VA nerfs. We took the hit probably worse than any other position in that regard.

I think this is right on. My best DT this year used all his SP and training to try to recover from what the VA nerf took away.

I even stuck with the attribute VAs. In particular I think the Track Star VA is still worthwhile, as there aren't really any other ways to get a speed boost at DT, aside from a couple types of AEQ. The other odd thing about this guy is that he has virtually nothing in Shed Block.

Originally posted by CapnEnnui
Originally posted by Chaos Knight

Mine put up his usual career averages, so it seemed the same.

A majority of agility DTs I've seen have at least regressed a bit. Yours got better. Any idea why? What were your VAs then and what are they now?

15 Heavyweight, 15 Pass Rusher, 14 Jump The Snap what they are now. Before, it was max +Strength/+Agility and a couple in +Speed I think (forget the actual VA names).

As for why, dunno. Another DT on my team, Waterboy, put up some monster stats himself this season and we're somewhat close in terms of build.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=37498&playoffs=0

My Agility DT sucks, any advice...

I'll open the build for the offseason
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=764919

I'm missing 5 points from EQ that doesn't help

Ditch closing speed for a shed blocks a.e. then add more vision and more speed and str. if we can reset v.a's start by pushing heavyweight to 15 then anything left over put in jts

Originally posted by EagleOtto
My Agility DT sucks, any advice...

I'll open the build for the offseason
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=764919

I'm missing 5 points from EQ that doesn't help


Too slow, ditch closing speed for shed block/TV/Blitz/First Step or a shed block %, more vision, get jump the snap.

Both my guys are agility, my guy in AAA1 USA had a career season and was 3rd in sacks playing more NT than DT, My one in Africa AA had a mediocre season playing only DT. Their builds are nearly identical with the only diffrence being the 1st has more in the run stopping SA tree which shouldn't have an affect on sacks. Both have tunnel vision AEQ. As the 1st is doing much better at a higher level of compititon, I'm assuming it's either agility is working better for NTs or the difference in DCing.

So, how's your guy doing this season?

Mine still can't get through the line despite shaking back and forth really quick with his high agility. I get a couple hurries but can't muster a sack. Strength DTs are outperforming me in pass rush because at least they sometimes get an instant pancake and then clear path to the QB. Then again, this season we face tougher competition as ~27s in a 34 cap league.

I notice I usually pick up the double team while the NT gets only one blocker. Is this because my speed/agility get me there much faster? Or is it just like this now? In any case I think I'd at least perform a little more against scrub guards, especially considering the DE boost this season... my DEs of the same level on the same team are doing much better this season.