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Originally posted by coachviking



Originally posted by BP




The Lightning O and return teams are solid but their D needs a lot of work.

Not really. The problem we are having is that our Offense has a few really big plays that we score TD's on and then alot of nothing. The Offense doesn't hold the ball and have sustained drives, so the defense plays alot of plays.

Vs. Lincoln

Monmouth gave up 367 Yards on 62 Plays (av 5.9 YPP)

San Diego Gave up 550 Yards on 86 plays (6.4 YPP)


So there isn't too much difference in how good MEM's D is vs. SDL



Guess you missed the second time we played Lincoln

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=566816

Do yourself a favor never compare your D to Ours...



Funny CV if you honestly think anyone other than yourself would use scrimmage game to evaluate a team. Even for tourney's I doubt most teams spend the 3-4 hours scouting. Its hard enough just scouting and plugging an AI for league games. who the hell has the time to do that for scrimmage games as well?



Not as funny as BP trying to pull one game out and compare the quality of our Defenses. You guys have given up 35+ points 6 times this year, we have once. You guys give up 545 yards per game we are at 341. While taking a tourney game, all be it a sweet 16 game in Hazy's tourney, might not be the best example to use it is certainly better than BP pulling one game out of our schedules and trying to make a case that your D is equal to ours.




Pull one game...wtf? I pulled the last game we played and the last time you REALLY played them.

The reality is, MEM's defense isn't that good..their offense still just runs the ball 40-50 times a game so their overall yardage given up looks decent. YPA/YPR wise...SD's is just as good, maybe better.

Sorry coachcock..wrong again...

Appreciate the effort that goes into the rankings, the reseach..not so much.


Do some research before you talk shtick. MEM almost passes more then they run this season.
 
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by BP

Originally posted by coachviking


Originally posted by Jaxx



Originally posted by coachviking




Originally posted by BP





The Lightning O and return teams are solid but their D needs a lot of work.

Not really. The problem we are having is that our Offense has a few really big plays that we score TD's on and then alot of nothing. The Offense doesn't hold the ball and have sustained drives, so the defense plays alot of plays.

Vs. Lincoln

Monmouth gave up 367 Yards on 62 Plays (av 5.9 YPP)

San Diego Gave up 550 Yards on 86 plays (6.4 YPP)


So there isn't too much difference in how good MEM's D is vs. SDL



Guess you missed the second time we played Lincoln

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=566816

Do yourself a favor never compare your D to Ours...



Funny CV if you honestly think anyone other than yourself would use scrimmage game to evaluate a team. Even for tourney's I doubt most teams spend the 3-4 hours scouting. Its hard enough just scouting and plugging an AI for league games. who the hell has the time to do that for scrimmage games as well?



Not as funny as BP trying to pull one game out and compare the quality of our Defenses. You guys have given up 35+ points 6 times this year, we have once. You guys give up 545 yards per game we are at 341. While taking a tourney game, all be it a sweet 16 game in Hazy's tourney, might not be the best example to use it is certainly better than BP pulling one game out of our schedules and trying to make a case that your D is equal to ours.




Pull one game...wtf? I pulled the last game we played and the last time you REALLY played them.

The reality is, MEM's defense isn't that good..their offense still just runs the ball 40-50 times a game so their overall yardage given up looks decent. YPA/YPR wise...SD's is just as good, maybe better.

Sorry coachcock..wrong again...

Appreciate the effort that goes into the rankings, the reseach..not so much.


I guess you would know about failing at research BP...Season 9 Monmouth . We have dropped back to pass 320 times (309 pass attempts +11 sacks) and have ran the ball 329 times (340-the 11 sacks) I don't really see this as a ball control run only offense. We get 81 offensive plays per game our opponents get 110. SDL gets 73 and their opponets get 100, so the ratio of offensive versus defensive plays if very similar. Now here is where the difference comes in, Monmouth gives up 3.1 yards per play and SDL gives up 5.4. Even more importantly Monmouth is allowing 23 points per game, SDL 44.

Any questions?


Not one for you, cuz no matter what I would possibly ask or say..you'd find a way to say that MEM is better then everyone. Stats can be tweaked to support any argument..even yours.

I've only been running the defense for 4 games, and DURING THAT TIME I'd put our defense..play for play..up against yours any day of the week. The only team that we have played mutually during that period was Lincoln..you held them to .4 YPP less then MY DEFENSE did. That's my point..if my defense needs alot of work, yours does as well.

As far as your run to pass ratio..we all know what you are doing. You are a ball control offense and then when you get up by X amount, you throw the ball to make it look like you have a balanced offense.

Ex

Last Close games you've had

vs. Texas (14 point win) - 55 rushes, 17 passes

Last non-gut blowout you had

vs Chicago (76 point win) - 47 Rushes, 45 Passes...BUT

in the 4th quarter when you were already up by 50+ points you ran 18 plays and 14 were passes.

We all know that old trick, you get far ahead and then start passing to make it look like you are a balanced squad.

 
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Originally posted by BP
Originally posted by coachviking

Originally posted by BP


Originally posted by coachviking



Originally posted by Jaxx




Originally posted by coachviking





Originally posted by BP






The Lightning O and return teams are solid but their D needs a lot of work.

Not really. The problem we are having is that our Offense has a few really big plays that we score TD's on and then alot of nothing. The Offense doesn't hold the ball and have sustained drives, so the defense plays alot of plays.

Vs. Lincoln

Monmouth gave up 367 Yards on 62 Plays (av 5.9 YPP)

San Diego Gave up 550 Yards on 86 plays (6.4 YPP)


So there isn't too much difference in how good MEM's D is vs. SDL



Guess you missed the second time we played Lincoln

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=566816

Do yourself a favor never compare your D to Ours...



Funny CV if you honestly think anyone other than yourself would use scrimmage game to evaluate a team. Even for tourney's I doubt most teams spend the 3-4 hours scouting. Its hard enough just scouting and plugging an AI for league games. who the hell has the time to do that for scrimmage games as well?



Not as funny as BP trying to pull one game out and compare the quality of our Defenses. You guys have given up 35+ points 6 times this year, we have once. You guys give up 545 yards per game we are at 341. While taking a tourney game, all be it a sweet 16 game in Hazy's tourney, might not be the best example to use it is certainly better than BP pulling one game out of our schedules and trying to make a case that your D is equal to ours.




Pull one game...wtf? I pulled the last game we played and the last time you REALLY played them.

The reality is, MEM's defense isn't that good..their offense still just runs the ball 40-50 times a game so their overall yardage given up looks decent. YPA/YPR wise...SD's is just as good, maybe better.

Sorry coachcock..wrong again...

Appreciate the effort that goes into the rankings, the reseach..not so much.


I guess you would know about failing at research BP...Season 9 Monmouth . We have dropped back to pass 320 times (309 pass attempts +11 sacks) and have ran the ball 329 times (340-the 11 sacks) I don't really see this as a ball control run only offense. We get 81 offensive plays per game our opponents get 110. SDL gets 73 and their opponets get 100, so the ratio of offensive versus defensive plays if very similar. Now here is where the difference comes in, Monmouth gives up 3.1 yards per play and SDL gives up 5.4. Even more importantly Monmouth is allowing 23 points per game, SDL 44.

Any questions?


Not one for you, cuz no matter what I would possibly ask or say..you'd find a way to say that MEM is better then everyone. Stats can be tweaked to support any argument..even yours.

I've only been running the defense for 4 games, and DURING THAT TIME I'd put our defense..play for play..up against yours any day of the week. The only team that we have played mutually during that period was Lincoln..you held them to .4 YPP less then MY DEFENSE did. That's my point..if my defense needs alot of work, yours does as well.

As far as your run to pass ratio..we all know what you are doing. You are a ball control offense and then when you get up by X amount, you throw the ball to make it look like you have a balanced offense.

Ex

Last Close games you've had

vs. Texas (14 point win) - 55 rushes, 17 passes

Last non-gut blowout you had

vs Chicago (76 point win) - 47 Rushes, 45 Passes...BUT

in the 4th quarter when you were already up by 50+ points you ran 18 plays and 14 were passes.

We all know that old trick, you get far ahead and then start passing to make it look like you are a balanced squad.



Well in a few days we get to see you try to stop our unbalanced offense and we will so what your O can do against our average D. I for one look foward to the results.
 
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Originally posted by BP
Originally posted by coachviking

Originally posted by BP


Originally posted by coachviking



Originally posted by Jaxx




Originally posted by coachviking





Originally posted by BP






The Lightning O and return teams are solid but their D needs a lot of work.

Not really. The problem we are having is that our Offense has a few really big plays that we score TD's on and then alot of nothing. The Offense doesn't hold the ball and have sustained drives, so the defense plays alot of plays.

Vs. Lincoln

Monmouth gave up 367 Yards on 62 Plays (av 5.9 YPP)

San Diego Gave up 550 Yards on 86 plays (6.4 YPP)


So there isn't too much difference in how good MEM's D is vs. SDL



Guess you missed the second time we played Lincoln

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=566816

Do yourself a favor never compare your D to Ours...



Funny CV if you honestly think anyone other than yourself would use scrimmage game to evaluate a team. Even for tourney's I doubt most teams spend the 3-4 hours scouting. Its hard enough just scouting and plugging an AI for league games. who the hell has the time to do that for scrimmage games as well?



Not as funny as BP trying to pull one game out and compare the quality of our Defenses. You guys have given up 35+ points 6 times this year, we have once. You guys give up 545 yards per game we are at 341. While taking a tourney game, all be it a sweet 16 game in Hazy's tourney, might not be the best example to use it is certainly better than BP pulling one game out of our schedules and trying to make a case that your D is equal to ours.




Pull one game...wtf? I pulled the last game we played and the last time you REALLY played them.

The reality is, MEM's defense isn't that good..their offense still just runs the ball 40-50 times a game so their overall yardage given up looks decent. YPA/YPR wise...SD's is just as good, maybe better.

Sorry coachcock..wrong again...

Appreciate the effort that goes into the rankings, the reseach..not so much.


I guess you would know about failing at research BP...Season 9 Monmouth . We have dropped back to pass 320 times (309 pass attempts +11 sacks) and have ran the ball 329 times (340-the 11 sacks) I don't really see this as a ball control run only offense. We get 81 offensive plays per game our opponents get 110. SDL gets 73 and their opponets get 100, so the ratio of offensive versus defensive plays if very similar. Now here is where the difference comes in, Monmouth gives up 3.1 yards per play and SDL gives up 5.4. Even more importantly Monmouth is allowing 23 points per game, SDL 44.

Any questions?


Not one for you, cuz no matter what I would possibly ask or say..you'd find a way to say that MEM is better then everyone. Stats can be tweaked to support any argument..even yours.

I've only been running the defense for 4 games, and DURING THAT TIME I'd put our defense..play for play..up against yours any day of the week. The only team that we have played mutually during that period was Lincoln..you held them to .4 YPP less then MY DEFENSE did. That's my point..if my defense needs alot of work, yours does as well.

As far as your run to pass ratio..we all know what you are doing. You are a ball control offense and then when you get up by X amount, you throw the ball to make it look like you have a balanced offense.

Ex

Last Close games you've had

vs. Texas (14 point win) - 55 rushes, 17 passes

Last non-gut blowout you had

vs Chicago (76 point win) - 47 Rushes, 45 Passes...BUT

in the 4th quarter when you were already up by 50+ points you ran 18 plays and 14 were passes.

We all know that old trick, you get far ahead and then start passing to make it look like you are a balanced squad.



Well if you know what we're doing then try and stop us. I bet you won't come within 20 points of us.
 
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1. Monmouth Evil Monkeys V 12. South Bay Spartans - MEM
2. Minnesota Marauders V NY-CA Ground Pounders - MM
3. Chicago Hedgehogs V Las Vegas Freebirds - CH
4. Washington Wolfpack V 10 Lincoln Navigators - WW
5. Compton Vikings V 9. Parma Burglars - CV
6. Honolulu Hurricane Warriors V 13. Bourbon Street Bullies - HHW
7. San Diego Lightning V 15. Dallas Vaqueros - SDL
8. Texas Roughnecks V 16 Spicewood Longhorns - TR
 
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Wow nothing like some heat prior to a game.
 
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for the record

Dallas vs Mem D - 4.2 Yards per play, 2 TD's Scored



Dallas vs San Diego D - 3.6 Yards per play, no TD's scored


See ya soon mem!
 
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Originally posted by BP
for the record

Dallas vs Mem D - 4.2 Yards per play, 2 TD's Scored



Dallas vs San Diego D - 3.6 Yards per play, no TD's scored


See ya soon mem!


hahaha this will be good.
 
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Originally posted by BP
for the record

Dallas vs Mem D - 4.2 Yards per play, 2 TD's Scored



Dallas vs San Diego D - 3.6 Yards per play, no TD's scored


See ya soon mem!


For the record:
You let my shitty RB run for 100 yards on you.
 
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For the record:
You let my shitty RB run for 100 yards on you.


He had 100 receiving yards that game, too. We came close to 600 yards of offense.
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for the record

Dallas vs Mem D - 4.2 Yards per play, 2 TD's Scored



Dallas vs San Diego D - 3.6 Yards per play, no TD's scored


See ya soon mem!


For the record:
You let my shitty RB run for 100 yards on you.


yeah, he pounded away for 100 yards on 2.9 YPC and a fumble, nicely done. Still, no TD's for you....

 
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Originally posted by BP
for the record

Dallas vs Mem D - 4.2 Yards per play, 2 TD's Scored



Dallas vs San Diego D - 3.6 Yards per play, no TD's scored


See ya soon mem!


Big bad 7th place team thinks they're tough
 
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If you're so confident about your defense then lets make an avatar bet. Unless, ofcourse, you're all talk.
 
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Originally posted by BP
Originally posted by jrry32

For the record:
You let my shitty RB run for 100 yards on you.


yeah, he pounded away for 100 yards on 2.9 YPC and a fumble, nicely done. Still, no TD's for you....



2.9 YPC? Who's math is that? Here I'll pull the 1st three pitches to MoJo from that game for you.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473816&pbp_id=7758889 - 9 yard gain
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473816&pbp_id=7760115 - 19.5 yard gain
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473816&pbp_id=7761316 - 12.5 yard gain

He's pounding away allright

Also MoJo had 2 TDs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473816&pbp_id=7764935
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473816&pbp_id=7761392

EDIT: Defensive genius right here: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=473816&pbp_id=7765238
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BP can't talk. His "amazing" defense gave up 924 yards to Spicewood before they gutted.....that's right....924 yards.
 
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