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Underdawg08
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ok now Ba'al has 7 int's in the preseason with 0 in ball hawk. The other two have 1 between them with 7 in ball hawk Oh the irony.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551733&pbp_id=3042941

would you say this is a ball hawk bonus if you didn't know he hasn't spent his v.a's yet?
 
hee163
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551733&pbp_id=3042941

would you say this is a ball hawk bonus if you didn't know he hasn't spent his v.a's yet?


My CB is on the other side of that play, and also makes quite a big move while the ball is in the air without ball hawk. I'm sceptical too, and wondering whether to go with long reach or 3rd down stopper.

 
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Originally posted by hee163
Originally posted by UnderDogs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551733&pbp_id=3042941

would you say this is a ball hawk bonus if you didn't know he hasn't spent his v.a's yet?


My CB is on the other side of that play, and also makes quite a big move while the ball is in the air without ball hawk. I'm sceptical too, and wondering whether to go with long reach or 3rd down stopper.



I hear that. I am starting to like 3rd down stopper the most. Last season all my corners had it. I noticed a big time increase in there third down stopping prowess.

I have reset once again. Still debating and looking over replays.
 
Dravz
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551733&pbp_id=3042941

would you say this is a ball hawk bonus if you didn't know he hasn't spent his v.a's yet?


No, he attacks the ball with the same speed and acceleration as when he was running to his zone spot.
 
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Originally posted by Dravz
Originally posted by UnderDogs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551733&pbp_id=3042941

would you say this is a ball hawk bonus if you didn't know he hasn't spent his v.a's yet?


No, he attacks the ball with the same speed and acceleration as when he was running to his zone spot.


No way.
 
G33
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551733&pbp_id=3042941

would you say this is a ball hawk bonus if you didn't know he hasn't spent his v.a's yet?


No, that looks like a normal play. Here's a ball hawk bonus. Watch the CB1.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=551557&pbp_id=2890877
 
cornerbackX24
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Originally posted by misled

Long Reach is just a joke and isn't worth the VP.


lol @ your ignorance
 
Dravz
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Originally posted by UnderDogs

No way.


Honest.
 
jonw9
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Originally posted by cornerbackX24
Originally posted by misled


Long Reach is just a joke and isn't worth the VP.


lol @ your ignorance


Unless LR has been tweaked, I agree.

When i added ball hawk in season 7, my PDs went DOWN 35%, and then back up 30% (down 5% net) in season 8 with 0 in LR.
 
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Originally posted by cornerbackX24
Originally posted by misled


Long Reach is just a joke and isn't worth the VP.


lol @ your ignorance
i'm not really sure you have a right to call people "ignorant" after they've tried 15 pt in LR and saw no increase in deflections. Some people just don't like it.

 
Maximus1
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I've had it maxed out, & can't tell a difference from when I didn't have it.
 
cornerbackX24
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Originally posted by Pagypie
Originally posted by cornerbackX24

Originally posted by misled



Long Reach is just a joke and isn't worth the VP.


lol @ your ignorance
i'm not really sure you have a right to call people "ignorant" after they've tried 15 pt in LR and saw no increase in deflections. Some people just don't like it.



http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=341365
Season 7: 85 PDs with maxed Long Reach.

Season 8: only 40 though, I overall got less looks and lets not forget the Strong I slam exploit.

Overall I am totally sold on it, probably it fits my built, who knows?
 
jonw9
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Originally posted by cornerbackX24
Originally posted by Pagypie

Originally posted by cornerbackX24


Originally posted by misled




Long Reach is just a joke and isn't worth the VP.


lol @ your ignorance
i'm not really sure you have a right to call people "ignorant" after they've tried 15 pt in LR and saw no increase in deflections. Some people just don't like it.



http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=341365
Season 7: 85 PDs with maxed Long Reach.

Season 8: only 40 though, I overall got less looks and lets not forget the Strong I slam exploit.

Overall I am totally sold on it, probably it fits my built, who knows?


So your PDs went down over 50%, and that make you "totally sold" on it? I could understand if you did not like it, or were unsure, but what in that data makes you completely sold?
 
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ball hawk - 15

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=474986&pbp_id=4046452
 
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