Originally posted by creeker22 Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by creeker22
I don't think Banzai, MM, CCC, or Matu Utu impressed me at all and if it were up to me, I wouldn't rank any of those teams. And in all honestly, I think that SEA could take their top teams against our top teams, but that is just me.
Anyways I really don't think WEPL is much better than OPL, but I think they are more competitive than OPL which is why I rank them above it.
What about Matu Utu didnt impress when they went 16-0 in the regular season? They also 22-3 LSP last season as well. I dont know...going off of last season...id say Matu Utu was pretty impressive. That being said...i guess we are dealing with a highly new sim here.
Of course they are top 25, but OPL Zeta IMO is weak top to bottom. I think that team would go 10-6 in USAPL, and well SEA Naga 14-2 or 13-3. They did beat Graz which is the one win that I really took in consideration, but then again PDD almost beat Graz as well 2 seasons ago, and the team was very similar in season 8 that they were in season 7.
Originally posted by tycoon34 OPL is seriously the 3rd best league in my eyes bro. Mata Utu, MM, and Banzai are all unbelievable teams and would win league championships in any other league besides for USAPL, CPL, and MAYBE SAPL depending on what Santiago does. Those three teams alone are on the ranks of ESL and LSP tbh, maybe a bit higher. I think you're underestimating OPL a bit Creek.
This might be going a little overboard...I think those teams are good...but in no way are any better than LSP or ESL tbh...i have a feeling this new sim isnt going to treat any of them nearly as well either.
Originally posted by bhall43 Originally posted by tycoon34
OPL is seriously the 3rd best league in my eyes bro. Mata Utu, MM, and Banzai are all unbelievable teams and would win league championships in any other league besides for USAPL, CPL, and MAYBE SAPL depending on what Santiago does. Those three teams alone are on the ranks of ESL and LSP tbh, maybe a bit higher. I think you're underestimating OPL a bit Creek.
This might be going a little overboard...I think those teams are good...but in no way are any better than LSP or ESL tbh...i have a feeling this new sim isnt going to treat any of them nearly as well either.
I always knew there was something that I liked about you bhall.
Originally posted by bhall43 Originally posted by tycoon34
OPL is seriously the 3rd best league in my eyes bro. Mata Utu, MM, and Banzai are all unbelievable teams and would win league championships in any other league besides for USAPL, CPL, and MAYBE SAPL depending on what Santiago does. Those three teams alone are on the ranks of ESL and LSP tbh, maybe a bit higher. I think you're underestimating OPL a bit Creek.
This might be going a little overboard...I think those teams are good...but in no way are any better than LSP or ESL tbh...i have a feeling this new sim isnt going to treat any of them nearly as well either.
at least Banzai. Banzai was the best team in GLB a few seasons ago and beat WSI albeit a bad sim in season 8. But Banzai has always been good, so it's hard to say that they only won cause of the sim.
Originally posted by tycoon34 Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by tycoon34
OPL is seriously the 3rd best league in my eyes bro. Mata Utu, MM, and Banzai are all unbelievable teams and would win league championships in any other league besides for USAPL, CPL, and MAYBE SAPL depending on what Santiago does. Those three teams alone are on the ranks of ESL and LSP tbh, maybe a bit higher. I think you're underestimating OPL a bit Creek.
This might be going a little overboard...I think those teams are good...but in no way are any better than LSP or ESL tbh...i have a feeling this new sim isnt going to treat any of them nearly as well either.
at least Banzai. Banzai was the best team in GLB a few seasons ago and beat WSI albeit a bad sim in season 8. But Banzai has always been good, so it's hard to say that they only won cause of the sim.
OPL was one of the worst pro leagues in Season 7. Granted a lot of those teams likely have juiced up in talent since...just saying...all 3 teams were a real product of power rushing last season. Especially Banzai.
Originally posted by creeker22 I would say this is how the rankings go by league
USAPL CPL SAPL WEPL OPL EEPL SEAPL APL
And this is excluding USA AAA which argueably both leagues are probably better than EE, SEA, and APL.
I'd mostly agree with this. USA AAA has been deep top to bottom with great teams for a long time. I don't think any other AAA leagues even come close to them, and they are definitely more competitive than a good number of Pro Leagues as well.