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Homage
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Originally posted by CapnEnnui
Originally posted by misled

he seems more
like a balanced DE Ennui and less like a strength based. I feel like
not focusing strictly on one attribute early on can change the focus
and direction your player will eventually go. Does it set you up for
more disaster if things were to change drastically? Sure. But it also
allows your play to take advantage of distinct abilities that can be
utilized. The guy is meant to STOP all forward movement from the TE and
RT for example. He doesn't have to get around them or get through them.
He has to stop the movement of the line of scrimmage. Hence you should
be pouring all you got into strength and maybe agility with the newer
revelations concerning stun blocks.


It just doesn't
really seem like stopping them does much... in the run game, lanes
don't seem to matter, it's more about holding blocks. If an o-line has
me held then the RB will just run through us. In other words I need to
shed the block or pancake, or I'm useless.

I'm thinking of
moving all equip to strength and getting a new AEQ that doesn't have
Blitz, and going for that strength route, but I'm still pretty sure it
won't be useful without shedding blocks or pancaking... and I don't
know if a DE can pancake OTs very well, even with focus.

His
strength will only be 86 if I put all equip there, and that's pretty
good for a 25 DE without CE, but it still isn't enough. I just don't
see "blocked running lanes."


oh pancakes happen on BOTH!

Last playoff game:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=579321&pbp_id=18627648
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=579321&pbp_id=18628253

Reverse pancakes are funny. I'm sure there would be more if he wasn't on special teams since his build at this point isn't very effective because it's just strength and some agility so far.
 
FatNasty
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Originally posted by Bluehaze
Originally posted by FatNasty

Originally posted by FatNasty


In logic, the jalapeno pepper ("~") means "non." What does it mean here?


Anyone?


it means about or approximately


Thanks
 
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Octpwned!
 
FatNasty
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Okay, I'll bite, how did I walk into being pwned this time?

Edited by FatNasty on May 30, 2009 08:03:55
 
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Originally posted by Octowned
Octowned's Run Stopping LDE Guide



Level 40 build without equipment:
Agility: 77
Strength: 77
Speed: 71
Tackling: 60
Vision: 50
Confidence: 50
Stamina: 35
Jumping: 25
Blocking: 20




-Octowned


I don't know how your agility and strength are both 77 by Level 40? If they are 3rd capped at Levels 23 and 25, that's 5.32 and 4.56 SP past the 68 cap at best from automatic skill points. That means they'll be a little over 74 and 73 by Level 40!
 
whatje
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u should go higher than 3rd cap then...?
 
trekster
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Should I apply this guide any differently if I plan to boost my players?
 
Purextc
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Originally posted by Kayoh
You don't have 30 SP by level 3.


You are Correct Sir there is only 25 points.
Edited by Purextc on Jun 7, 2009 16:00:45
 
trekster
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Originally posted by Purextc
Originally posted by Kayoh

You don't have 30 SP by level 3.


YEs you Do if you dont spend the initial 15 you get when created


doesnt that add to 25?
 
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Originally posted by biggregzeg
Originally posted by Octowned

Octowned's Run Stopping LDE Guide



Level 40 build without equipment:
Agility: 77
Strength: 77
Speed: 71
Tackling: 60
Vision: 50
Confidence: 50
Stamina: 35
Jumping: 25
Blocking: 20




-Octowned


I don't know how your agility and strength are both 77 by Level 40? If they are 3rd capped at Levels 23 and 25, that's 5.32 and 4.56 SP past the 68 cap at best from automatic skill points. That means they'll be a little over 74 and 73 by Level 40!


My d.e. has 82 natural agility and 74 natural speed with 51 str at level 34. It's beyond possible.
edit. Oh and 5-3-5-5-1 in the pass rush tree.
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 7, 2009 19:23:30
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 7, 2009 19:22:33
 
SpreadThePink
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Originally posted by biggregzeg


I don't know how your agility and strength are both 77 by Level 40? If they are 3rd capped at Levels 23 and 25, that's 5.32 and 4.56 SP past the 68 cap at best from automatic skill points. That means they'll be a little over 74 and 73 by Level 40!



This is possible before level 30.
 
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