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Luzod
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Originally posted by Modok
Originally posted by Luzod

Originally posted by rj414


Originally posted by kadafitcd



Originally posted by Chop_Lobster




Thanks Hazy, 12th seems fair and a good but in our defense 10-6 and two playoff wins for a passing team in S8's sim was p good.

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Oh you NATS are always bitchin about somethin! Now what kinda placement is that for Compton? There is new life being filled into Compton. We were a passing team last season as well. So we should do better next season. I'm hoping for the playoffs but I'm sure we'll be better than 13th.


Not to be mr stormcloud, but making the assumption that a passing sim won't benefit teams like Monmouth, Minnesota, WW, Lincoln, Spicewood, Chicago, HHW, and BSB at least as much as you guys wouldn't be a smart move for either of your teams. Yes, you will be better relative to last year's sim - but I don't know that a lot of other teams won't be as well.


Not to be a cock, but look at what we did before crap rushing season and look at what we did last season.

Lol, thanks for pointing out that passing game shall benefit WW, HHW more than us, because, obviously, they were passing happy since ever.

As for the other teams quotes above... Hmmm, yeah, still we beat half of those teams even on this crap rushing season.

Not pretending to be the best team in the league, but stop trying to say we are bottom tiers, because even by your logic, we ain't.

I don't give a shit when ppl complain about my rankings, so I'm not complaining about someone elses... just exposing failures on this logic you're using.

Also, as I said in other thread, we improoved more than just 'better sim'.


Thing is, you did it in AAA, not Pro. The League where everyone you play is at or above your level. Passing wasnt broken last year, there were teams IN THIS LEAGUE that passed it just fine.


Half of this league is from AAA, Sir. More than half actually.
 
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Originally posted by Luzod

Half of this league is from AAA, Sir. More than half actually.


Yeah - from the *very* top of AAA in their respective seasons. When you go from your biggest stat padding game being one of a couple gut jobs to your biggest stat padding game being the Dallas Vaqueros, there's a difference. There isn't a team in this conference aside maybe from Dallas that isn't capable of beating you. Very different scenario indeed.
 
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Originally posted by rj414
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Half of this league is from AAA, Sir. More than half actually.


Yeah - from the *very* top of AAA in their respective seasons. When you go from your biggest stat padding game being one of a couple gut jobs to your biggest stat padding game being the Dallas Vaqueros, there's a difference. There isn't a team in this conference aside maybe from Dallas that isn't capable of beating you. Very different scenario indeed.


Being capable doesn't mean they'll do.

As for "Very top of AAA", most of the teams from here were with AAA with us in our only season there and we left with a trophy. So, AAA champion is not 'capable of beating' other AAA teams, but they certainly are to beat him.

I can't understand your logic, I seriously can't. I was never concerned about being ranked 13rd tbh, I'm just trying to understand the fact you're pretending that all those teams are certainly better than us even before season start.
 
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Nats are always underestimated. ALWAYS. I wouldn't reccommend looking past them. Bookmarked for I told you so later.
 
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Originally posted by Luzod
Originally posted by rj414

Originally posted by kadafitcd


Originally posted by Chop_Lobster



Thanks Hazy, 12th seems fair and a good but in our defense 10-6 and two playoff wins for a passing team in S8's sim was p good.

Update cry meter


Oh you NATS are always bitchin about somethin! Now what kinda placement is that for Compton? There is new life being filled into Compton. We were a passing team last season as well. So we should do better next season. I'm hoping for the playoffs but I'm sure we'll be better than 13th.


Not to be mr stormcloud, but making the assumption that a passing sim won't benefit teams like Monmouth, Minnesota, WW, Lincoln, Spicewood, Chicago, HHW, and BSB at least as much as you guys wouldn't be a smart move for either of your teams. Yes, you will be better relative to last year's sim - but I don't know that a lot of other teams won't be as well.


Not to be a cock, but look at what we did before crap rushing season and look at what we did last season.

Lol, thanks for pointing out that passing game shall benefit WW, HHW more than us, because, obviously, they were passing happy since ever.

As for the other teams quotes above... Hmmm, yeah, still we beat half of those teams even on this crap rushing season.

Not pretending to be the best team in the league, but stop trying to say we are bottom tiers, because even by your logic, we ain't.

I don't give a shit when ppl complain about my rankings, so I'm not complaining about someone elses... just exposing failures on this logic you're using.

Also, as I said in other thread, we improoved more than just 'better sim'.


That's funny, because we actually passed for 282 yds on you guys...more than our rush yds.
 
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Originally posted by thehazyone
4. Lincoln - this team struggled down the stretch in season 8 but is still one of the elite teams in GLB. How will the loss of their best RB effect their running game? That's one of the bigger questions they will need to answer early on.


It's alright, they still have Vick. Now about that passing sim....
 
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Ding ding. A balanced sim will actually benefit those that can run just as much or more as those that can't.

Just think, Csonka 50% and Drago in season 7s sim 50%. And you all thought MEM was unstoppable this season...



Yea, not long ago MEM was the best passing team in USA Pro, arguably the best passing game in all of GLB. All the personnel is still there, so if the passing game is improved at all I think MEM will be OK.
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by Luzod

Originally posted by rj414


Originally posted by kadafitcd



Originally posted by Chop_Lobster




Thanks Hazy, 12th seems fair and a good but in our defense 10-6 and two playoff wins for a passing team in S8's sim was p good.

Update cry meter


Oh you NATS are always bitchin about somethin! Now what kinda placement is that for Compton? There is new life being filled into Compton. We were a passing team last season as well. So we should do better next season. I'm hoping for the playoffs but I'm sure we'll be better than 13th.


Not to be mr stormcloud, but making the assumption that a passing sim won't benefit teams like Monmouth, Minnesota, WW, Lincoln, Spicewood, Chicago, HHW, and BSB at least as much as you guys wouldn't be a smart move for either of your teams. Yes, you will be better relative to last year's sim - but I don't know that a lot of other teams won't be as well.


Not to be a cock, but look at what we did before crap rushing season and look at what we did last season.

Lol, thanks for pointing out that passing game shall benefit WW, HHW more than us, because, obviously, they were passing happy since ever.

As for the other teams quotes above... Hmmm, yeah, still we beat half of those teams even on this crap rushing season.

Not pretending to be the best team in the league, but stop trying to say we are bottom tiers, because even by your logic, we ain't.

I don't give a shit when ppl complain about my rankings, so I'm not complaining about someone elses... just exposing failures on this logic you're using.

Also, as I said in other thread, we improoved more than just 'better sim'.


That's funny, because we actually passed for 282 yds on you guys...more than our rush yds.


you know, when ppl can't keep the ball on the offense, their opponents tend to do it. We couldn't keep it on our offense for the whole season, so obviously if it wasn't for our defense, we'd have lost pretty bad to almost everyone here.

As for the game against you, lol, that was pretty much a overall mistake, I think you can tell by comparing results. Second worst beat on us came from MEM and it was a huge difference.

I think it's quite funny for YOU to say it tbh, but I'm getting used to you and kr0n new styles actually.
 
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Vick sucks, always' has.
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Originally posted by Luzod


you know, when ppl can't keep the ball on the offense, their opponents tend to do it. We couldn't keep it on our offense for the whole season, so obviously if it wasn't for our defense, we'd have lost pretty bad to almost everyone here.

As for the game against you, lol, that was pretty much a overall mistake, I think you can tell by comparing results. Second worst beat on us came from MEM and it was a huge difference.

I think it's quite funny for YOU to say it tbh, but I'm getting used to you and kr0n new styles actually.


We are getting used to your style as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNqUdqm1E

 
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Originally posted by xcoach2
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Ding ding. A balanced sim will actually benefit those that can run just as much or more as those that can't.

Just think, Csonka 50% and Drago in season 7s sim 50%. And you all thought MEM was unstoppable this season...



Yea, not long ago MEM was the best passing team in USA Pro, arguably the best passing game in all of GLB. All the personnel is still there, so if the passing game is improved at all I think MEM will be OK.


Hai x'

I have this sinking feeling that MEM will be just fine

 
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Originally posted by Luzod
Originally posted by rj414

Originally posted by Luzod



Half of this league is from AAA, Sir. More than half actually.


Yeah - from the *very* top of AAA in their respective seasons. When you go from your biggest stat padding game being one of a couple gut jobs to your biggest stat padding game being the Dallas Vaqueros, there's a difference. There isn't a team in this conference aside maybe from Dallas that isn't capable of beating you. Very different scenario indeed.


Being capable doesn't mean they'll do.

As for "Very top of AAA", most of the teams from here were with AAA with us in our only season there and we left with a trophy. So, AAA champion is not 'capable of beating' other AAA teams, but they certainly are to beat him.

I can't understand your logic, I seriously can't. I was never concerned about being ranked 13rd tbh, I'm just trying to understand the fact you're pretending that all those teams are certainly better than us even before season start.


Let's dissect your post one point at a time.

"As for "Very top of AAA", most of the teams from here were with AAA with us in our only season there and we left with a trophy."

The teams from AAA that made playoffs last season all came from the other AAA league, and you lost to 2/3 of them, as well as losing to the team that promoted with you from your conference (SDL) (insert "but it was the season 8 sim!!1" retort here).

"So, AAA champion is not 'capable of beating' other AAA teams, but they certainly are to beat him."

I'm not sure based on your sentence structure if you mean that the AAA champion is certainly to beat the other AAA teams - in which case SDL beating Compton and Wolfpack going 2-0 against Spicewood last season shatters that theory, or if you're implying that I said the AAA champions are not capable of beating the other AAA teams, but the other teams are certainly capable of beating them - which I didn't.

"I'm just trying to understand the fact you're pretending that all those teams are certainly better than us even before season start."

Again, please show me where I said that. All I did was caution both Compton and the Naturals, two teams that have already proven themselves to be pretty loquacious, against getting back on their high horses just because the s9 sim will fuck them over marginally less than the s8 sim did - the sad truth is, the advantage your getting back is going back to every team in this league.

 
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AAA2 is a lot tougher than AAA1.
 
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Originally posted by xcoach2


Vick sucks, always' has.


Ah...
 
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Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by kadafitcd

Originally posted by Chop_Lobster


Thanks Hazy, 12th seems fair and a good but in our defense 10-6 and two playoff wins for a passing team in S8's sim was p good.

Update cry meter


Oh you NATS are always bitchin about somethin! Now what kinda placement is that for Compton? There is new life being filled into Compton. We were a passing team last season as well. So we should do better next season. I'm hoping for the playoffs but I'm sure we'll be better than 13th.


Not to be mr stormcloud, but making the assumption that a passing sim won't benefit teams like Monmouth, Minnesota, WW, Lincoln, Spicewood, Chicago, HHW, and BSB at least as much as you guys wouldn't be a smart move for either of your teams. Yes, you will be better relative to last year's sim - but I don't know that a lot of other teams won't be as well.


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as for the 7 teams mentioned above, this season (8) we won over 2 of them, lost by 3 to one, lost by 7 to other and lost to 14 to other 2. I think we'll improove 3~7 points more than those teams.

Can you all drop threating us bad? Some of you act cocky toward us since before we were here, and you know it. As for your so called 'Vikings behaviour', was a season start joke that was taken too serious and some of you started to insult us and got insulted back. Since then, we have been quite normal here, so just act normal toward us.
 
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