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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP

It's damn nice to have you back, magic...Been seeing your posts popping up all over the place today, and a couple of them damn near made me spit soda.


Thank god you didn't say spit beer....I would have had to rethink my opinion of you


In my tragically misspent youth, I most likely could have drank you under the table, CV, but I've turned into a light weight supreme since then.
 
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Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx
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TSE, the point is that you seem to think depth makes a difference in the scheme of things. While it may have a small impact, it isnt as powerful as you seem to let on.


You don't think having most of your offense and defense not have to play STs makes a difference? I don't want to turn this thread into a debate about that, but higher energy = better performance for about 10 calculations per player per play. If you don't think that matters tremendously you should probably reconsider. I actually added several STers many seasons ago (unfortunately for me, non-booster types) specifically to save our offense and defense some energy. However, I think the most players we have ever had was 53. One of the main goals we have this season is to increase the size of our roster because Bort won't limit roster sizes and we have no choice because our STs got mauled this season, particularly against bloated teams.

If you don't think roster sizes should be limited, that is fine. But you are just plain wrong if you don't think it provides a significant advantage to have 10+ more players than the team you are playing.

All that said, I'm picking Vegas to win by less than a TD with a STs TD being the difference.


This argument makes a lot of sense, and was the reason I added so much depth to begin with. Regretably, it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt this season that stamina/energy means almost nothing. This is why one RB can run the ball 60 times with no noticeable decline in performance.

If Bort increases the decline in performance when tired, it would make this point more valid.

In my opinion, the only real difference to added ST depth, is that you can customize the players to play STs. So you get an advantage on kick returns and kick offs, not on real offensive and defensive plays.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx

Originally posted by Modok


TSE, the point is that you seem to think depth makes a difference in the scheme of things. While it may have a small impact, it isnt as powerful as you seem to let on.


You don't think having most of your offense and defense not have to play STs makes a difference? I don't want to turn this thread into a debate about that, but higher energy = better performance for about 10 calculations per player per play. If you don't think that matters tremendously you should probably reconsider. I actually added several STers many seasons ago (unfortunately for me, non-booster types) specifically to save our offense and defense some energy. However, I think the most players we have ever had was 53. One of the main goals we have this season is to increase the size of our roster because Bort won't limit roster sizes and we have no choice because our STs got mauled this season, particularly against bloated teams.

If you don't think roster sizes should be limited, that is fine. But you are just plain wrong if you don't think it provides a significant advantage to have 10+ more players than the team you are playing.

All that said, I'm picking Vegas to win by less than a TD with a STs TD being the difference.


In my opinion, the only real difference to added ST depth, is that you can customize the players to play STs. So you get an advantage on kick returns and kick offs, not on real offensive and defensive plays.


That advantage was huge against us this season. It wasn't just the TDs (which were plentiful), but the horrible field position. My guess would put our opponents average starting field position at like their 45, 20 yards (or less) from FG range. I have nothing against teams having guys that are mostly special teamers, but they shouldn't also be able to have a stable of RBs and LBs...choices should need to be made. There is no way this game ever succeeds outside of 'beta' without strict roster limits...every sports league has them and often they are very restrictive to improve quality of play and competition. Trying to enter a competition where everyone is already worlds ahead of you is prohibitive, which is why it took several seasons to even get the Pro leagues filled with human teams. It also allows elements that are not technically part of the game to interfere with the 'purety' of the competition. The playing field must be level or it just isn't worth it to a lot of people because its meaningless. This is something that could be fixed by simple edict with almost no programming required, and it would immediately improve the game.


 
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

Originally posted by thehazyone



And lol at TSE trolling again.


LOL at your claims of trolling.

It's called a "post" lol.


i find it hard to believe you laughed out loud twice while responding to that post


I think it looked something like this.
http://listentothecity.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/hahanet.jpg
 
thehazyone
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I changed my mind - to hell with it. Strong I Slam fest it is. How many opportunities am I going to get to go to the title game.

Sucks, but it is what it is.

Good luck with the coin flip tomorrow OFG's.
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That's the spirit!
 
Opus
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Originally posted by thehazyone
I changed my mind - to hell with it. Strong I Slam fest it is. How many opportunities am I going to get to go to the title game.

Sucks, but it is what it is.

Good luck with the coin flip tomorrow OFG's.


Sweet! This means the RDEs from **O** and I can set up some lawn chairs and a keg and watch the action unfold from the best seats in the house.
 
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Hazy - at least mix in some QB runs to keep it interesting
 
HULK
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Originally posted by Opus
Originally posted by thehazyone

I changed my mind - to hell with it. Strong I Slam fest it is. How many opportunities am I going to get to go to the title game.

Sucks, but it is what it is.

Good luck with the coin flip tomorrow OFG's.


Sweet! This means the RDEs from **O** and I can set up some lawn chairs and a keg and watch the action unfold from the best seats in the house.


I need to rename Hulk Smash to Hulk Spectator
 
thehazyone
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Originally posted by Ryiotgear
Hazy - at least mix in some QB runs to keep it interesting


Sure thing, we'll do two kneels at the end of the game to run the clock out.
 
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Originally posted by HULK
Originally posted by Opus

Originally posted by thehazyone


I changed my mind - to hell with it. Strong I Slam fest it is. How many opportunities am I going to get to go to the title game.

Sucks, but it is what it is.

Good luck with the coin flip tomorrow OFG's.


Sweet! This means the RDEs from **O** and I can set up some lawn chairs and a keg and watch the action unfold from the best seats in the house.


I need to rename Hulk Smash to Hulk Spectator


I'll rename Runin Krunch to Sitin Chill
 
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Originally posted by joemiken
Originally posted by PsychoMan001

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


Originally posted by thehazyone




And lol at TSE trolling again.


LOL at your claims of trolling.

It's called a "post" lol.


i find it hard to believe you laughed out loud twice while responding to that post


I think it looked something like this.
http://listentothecity.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/hahanet.jpg


lol!
 
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Originally posted by s.i.m.
I wish these boards had an ignore function.


Alt + F4 in IE.
 
thehazyone
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Good game OFG's - was a thriller for sure. Proof positive that you can win without a Strong I Slam heavy offense.
 
The Duff Man
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Originally posted by thehazyone
Good game OFG's - was a thriller for sure. Proof positive that you can win without a Strong I Slam heavy offense.


Yup. Good luck in the final!
 
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