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kingofgod
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Originally posted by Granted86



now imagine a cb that has speed agility vision and jumping all at the 3rd cap naturally? maybe some vet points in agility and speed ... a cb like that would give your qb a REALLY hard time since he would have the vision to see what your qb is doing before he does it ... the agility/speed to break on the ball and the reach to deflect the pass, even tho you throw it hard ...


As long as my WR has speed and agility triple capped I'm fine. He will be open enough for me to get him the ball.



A cb like that would give the QB you posted in your replays a much harder time considering his strength is only 50. The wr would be open but the ball would take longer to get there giving the cb more time to react
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Originally posted by Granted86

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=329200&pbp_id=10369196
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=329239&pbp_id=12571985

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decent throws vs. a very weak secondary

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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=313460&pbp_id=7410160
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=313494&pbp_id=11872030

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REAL throws vs a real secondary


Those guys are the same lvl as my QB and WR....how is that weak?

as i said throwing the ball 35 yards in stride is NOT hard to do especially when the cb cant keep up with the wr for more than 5 yeards ... also the score of the game should let u kno that the team was not a good one to begin with ... if these throws were made in a competative game it would make a difference

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Granted86
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Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by Granted86




now imagine a cb that has speed agility vision and jumping all at the 3rd cap naturally? maybe some vet points in agility and speed ... a cb like that would give your qb a REALLY hard time since he would have the vision to see what your qb is doing before he does it ... the agility/speed to break on the ball and the reach to deflect the pass, even tho you throw it hard ...


A cb that good will have the WR covered and I would throw to someone else.

A cb like that would give the QB you posted in your replays a much harder time considering his strength is only 50.


what if a team has 2 cbs like that? ...

low vision may cause your qb to think the wr is open when he is in a scenario like that, causing an ill advised throw, which can lead to the pd, int or dreaded pick 6 ... im not trying to put down ur qb, just trying to help ...
as my cb is 60+ in all those attributes

brett favre had a great arm, and leads the league in all time touchdowns ... he also lead in all time ints ...
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kingofgod
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Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by kingofgod

Originally posted by Granted86





now imagine a cb that has speed agility vision and jumping all at the 3rd cap naturally? maybe some vet points in agility and speed ... a cb like that would give your qb a REALLY hard time since he would have the vision to see what your qb is doing before he does it ... the agility/speed to break on the ball and the reach to deflect the pass, even tho you throw it hard ...


A cb that good will have the WR covered and I would throw to someone else.

A cb like that would give the QB you posted in your replays a much harder time considering his strength is only 50.


what if a team has 2 cbs like that? ...

low vision may cause your qb to think the wr is open when he is in a scenario like that, causing an ill advised throw, which can lead to the pd, int or dreaded pick 6 ... im not trying to put down ur qb, just trying to help ...
as my cb is 60+ in all those attributes

brett favre had a great arm, and leads the league in all time touchdowns ... he also lead in all time ints ...


I know. Im glad someone finally continued this discussion

The thing is that as long as your WRs are good they should be open. im not saying neglect vision, just get it to bare minimum to see an open WR. Right now that minimum seems to be 55. My guess is that with next seasons changes i will need vision around 63 to continue being good
 
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this is kinda what i mean by ill advised throws ... lvl 45 wr and lvl 37 qb, my cb is level 39

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=370623&pbp_id=15402952

qb wasnt under pressure so he didnt have to throw but thought his wr was open ... jamaal saw it coming, pick 6
 
kingofgod
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Originally posted by Granted86
this is kinda what i mean by ill advised throws ... lvl 45 wr and lvl 37 qb, my cb is level 39

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=370623&pbp_id=15402952

qb wasnt under pressure so he didnt have to throw but thought his wr was open ... jamaal saw it coming, pick 6


My guess is that he had a favorite target set as that WR.. it was also a bad throw. The WR ran a hook route and he threw it right to your CB
 
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Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by Granted86

this is kinda what i mean by ill advised throws ... lvl 45 wr and lvl 37 qb, my cb is level 39

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=370623&pbp_id=15402952

qb wasnt under pressure so he didnt have to throw but thought his wr was open ... jamaal saw it coming, pick 6


My guess is that he had a favorite target set as that WR.. it was also a bad throw. The WR ran a hook route and he threw it right to your CB


thats a possibility but more of an "what if" if the qb had better vision he would have held it longer and not made the throw cause he would have seen my cb was all over his wideout ...

then again jamaal is usually all over any wr within 5 levels of him
 
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your CB does look pretty good. Not many ints this season though.

I like mine more
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=763435&playoffs=0
 
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Without high vision though, your QB does make some questionable decisions particularly on the HB Fly play.

On these 2 plays, despite the HB being the designated primary target and uncovered, your QB tries to force the pass to the TE, resulting in INTs:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296129&pbp_id=7727543
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296124&pbp_id=3890076

Here he actually decides to throw to the HB who's covered this timeand throws an INT, missing the open WR underneath:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296130&pbp_id=8474848
 
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Originally posted by kingofgod
your CB does look pretty good. Not many ints this season though.

I like mine more
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=763435&playoffs=0


nice cb but keep in mind jamaal is the #1 AND the #3 cb on a AAA team going up against wr's 3-6 levels higher than him, and the +4 they get from lvl 40 equipment that jamaal doesnt have yet ... cant really compare as your cb plays #3

also jamaal got a piece of pd ae(base +3 agilty, 5%pd chance) at the beginning of last season ... which hurts his chances to get ints, notice the sudden drop ... ironically his only int came in the game he wasnt wearing any equipment

your cb looks pretty good, jamaal is a beast tho ...
Last edited Feb 11, 2009 21:09:23
 
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Originally posted by Viscount
Without high vision though, your QB does make some questionable decisions particularly on the HB Fly play.

On these 2 plays, despite the HB being the designated primary target and uncovered, your QB tries to force the pass to the TE, resulting in INTs:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296129&pbp_id=7727543
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296124&pbp_id=3890076

Here he actually decides to throw to the HB who's covered this timeand throws an INT, missing the open WR underneath:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296130&pbp_id=8474848


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Originally posted by Viscount
Without high vision though, your QB does make some questionable decisions particularly on the HB Fly play.

On these 2 plays, despite the HB being the designated primary target and uncovered, your QB tries to force the pass to the TE, resulting in INTs:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296129&pbp_id=7727543
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296124&pbp_id=3890076

Here he actually decides to throw to the HB who's covered this timeand throws an INT, missing the open WR underneath:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=296130&pbp_id=8474848


I know. I think the little drop off in production is worth it. The second replay with the TE is the TE's fault. He dropped it to the MLB.

he only threw 8 ints this season so it doesnt happen that much
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This QB from the test server has a rocket arm with just 49 strength:

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=184&pbp_id=73155

He also has 70 vision, 68 confidence, 85 throwing, 5 Pocket Presence, 10 Tight Spiral, 10 Pump Fake, 5 Turn Shoulder,10 Field General, a 15 VA bonus to throwing and a 15 VA bonus to vision.
 
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Originally posted by Viscount
This QB from the test server has a rocket arm with just 49 strength:

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=184&pbp_id=73155

He also has 70 vision, 68 confidence, 85 throwing, 5 Pocket Presence, 10 Tight Spiral, 10 Pump Fake, 5 Turn Shoulder,10 Field General, a 15 VA bonus to throwing and a 15 VA bonus to vision.


Throwing on bullet.
 
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