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Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco
Originally posted by coachviking

I agree with PP adapt and overcome. Stop bitching and figure it out.

Funny that an owner with 3-4 pro level players himself turns makes this comment. The GLB Army has spoken....I'm sure your army will be happy to accommodate your ever demanding need to stay up with your demands for GLB change with their OWN financial resources....and provide you with 40 more goats next season all with brown spots. The question we'd like to know the answer to is when are you going to really help them over the fence?

OK, I have 30+ pro level players and I'll say it. I also have no affiliation with MEM, hell I've never even spoken to a single one of their agents. I am personally tired, however, of coming into this forum and seeing a thread or post every time your team loses about how such and such is the cause for it and how much the game is fucked up as a result of it. Many teams, mine included, have been hit by the power back overpowered bug but you don't see them bitching about it. Every one has to deal with the same issues on the same level.

Deal with it and quit the whining, cluttering up the forum, and making excuses for your losses. Your team is good (better than mine), but so are the teams that have beat you. Show some respect when you lose and thank them for a good game and move on to the next game.

Originally posted by thehazyone
Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco

Originally posted by coachviking


I agree with PP adapt and overcome. Stop bitching and figure it out.

Funny that an owner with 3-4 pro level players himself turns makes this comment. The GLB Army has spoken....I'm sure your army will be happy to accommodate your ever demanding need to stay up with your demands for GLB change with their OWN financial resources....and provide you with 40 more goats next season all with brown spots. The question we'd like to know the answer to is when are you going to really help them over the fence?

OK, I have 30+ pro level players and I'll say it. I also have no affiliation with MEM, hell I've never even spoken to a single one of their agents. I am personally tired, however, of coming into this forum and seeing a thread or post every time your team loses about how such and such is the cause for it and how much the game is fucked up as a result of it. Many teams, mine included, have been hit by the power back overpowered bug but you don't see them bitching about it. Every one has to deal with the same issues on the same level.

Deal with it and quit the whining, cluttering up the forum, and making excuses for your losses. Your team is good (better than mine), but so are the teams that have beat you. Show some respect when you lose and thank them for a good game and move on to the next game.

Yeap, signing onto this too. I have a bunch of Pro players (some are in EE Pro, and I don't know if you call that Pro or not) I have extremely limited affiliation with either CV or PP. I also cannot confirm the brown spotted goat thing, but I will for Wed's games. I'll report back ASAP

Originally posted by Painmaker
Only double-digit career sacks for a DE who started seeing action way back in Season 1? Not so impressed...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=242465
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=249733
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=262004

All of that is irrelevant though... we're all impressed by your amazing sack artist (not really but I hope it makes you feel better to think so), just stop crying when he misses tackles after he's been built to only do one thing. Sorry that your cheese moved, but the game is better for it.

Lol...you have like 100 players, a few are bound to be good..nice job bro.

To back up Vegas...he's a solid dude and not a sore loser. When we lost in the championship to Parma last year we all said that it wasn't meant to be and they were the better team. We lost to MEM in the preseason and we were proud it was only by 7. What VB is trying to point out is that the game has changed drastically in a short period of time...and there is nothing you can do to gameplan for missed tackles. The imbalance that Bort has CREATED this season with powerbacks is frustrating and honestly a cause for concern.

How many players straight out RETIRED because their inability to be competitive with a balanced player. GLB has seen a dramatic decrease in Flex Points purchased because people are just shelving their players once the game turns away from them. There are DE's who had 60 sacks last season who are down to 3....QB's who used to be able to throw over the top that can't get the ball downfield 35 yards in the air anymore...and the rules change every season, sometimes twice a season.

My point and I think VB is with me is that Bort keeps tweaking things to try to balance things out and all is he doing is imbalancing them in another way. It's very frustrating to know that however you build your player, he's gonna be great some seasons and bad other ones because of code changes that Bort randomly makes. I'm not gonna rebuy equipment every time Bort smells a fart in the wind.

Straight out...this thing has been in BETA for what...closing in 9 months? This has nothing to do with losing a sim game..it's about pouring $100 over the lifetime of a player and the product being a constantly morphing mess. I dig GLB, I'm gonna keep playing...but comeon man...2 back to back missed tackles in a game when I've had 2 in the past 19 previous. And I'm supposed to spend the rest of his career training and pouring points into tackling and rebuying equipment because bort woke up and decided he liked Powerbacks one day....BS...I'll retire my player first.

Originally posted by BP


there is nothing you can do to gameplan for missed tackles


WRONG

Originally posted by BP


2 back to back missed tackles in a game when I've had 2 in the past 19 previous.

In the playoffs last season, I saw a CB who missed three tackles all season, miss two tackles inside the last two minutes of a game, both leading to 60+ TD bombs that made us lose by a few points. Obviously this was a fluke thing, where his build didn't match up well with the WR he was facing and we got the crappy end of the random roll. Statistical irregularities happen.

The difference in this case is that maybe last season you were 3% to miss a tackle. This season if you are 30% to miss a tackle then you better adjust your build and if you don't and then come in here to complain about it then you are a jackass.

Posted by me many times: It is Bort's game. He can do what he wants. If you don't like it don't cry about it here, because we don't want to hear it, there is nothing we can do about it, and most of us probably agree with you but have learned to accept it or move on.

eh, I do what I want...say what I want where I want. If you don't like it, ignore me or stop me...I'm done though, made my point.

The funny thing is I don't think Bort did a thing to Power backs that made them better. The only addition that helped them was the Bruiser VA, and I guess something that makes the bonus to SAs add on after it is randomized....whatever that means.

Anyways look at all the things implemented this season that hurts power backs.

Originally posted by Bort
- Monster Hit/Big Hit adjusted a bit to effect the "quality" of the tackle instead of just being a straight up force fumble bonus. This means they will help you stop a player from fighting out extra yards more, as well as +FF ability.
- Reverse pancake more likely when breaking blocks - this was a big problem with run blocking, especially on screens with CBs, etc. When the defender broke a block, it would end up just re-engaging the very next tick because the blocker didn't get knocked down or pushed back much. High strength vs low strength = more likely knockdown now (along with the heavyweight VA). This seems to allow DT's to get in the play more on run plays too.
- "Run through the pile" slowdown increased to what I've been using in testing since I set it up, instead of the 65% I used in production last season
- Make tackle while being blocked penalty reduced a bit
- LB pre-snap read reaction changed - they now sort of "shadow" the HB before he gets the handoff, which gets them in better position to fill the hole. If you want them to all out attack on the play instead, have them blitz.
- Tacklers can now hang on and be dragged a short while if they barely miss their tackle roll, to allow for a gang tackle to possibly happen. Strength vs strength rolls helps determine how quickly the tackler will get shaken off.
- Reduced opponent radius for blocker avoidance routine, to allow for blitzing safeties to work properly, among other things
- Increase to amount of balance lost when breaking a tackle, to help avoid super long strings of broken tackles in the middle of a 5 guy pile - should help improve gang tackling

And you say people are having problems competing with a balanced player? I think it's the other way around. If you have a very specialized build almost to the point of exploitation, you should know by now there is a chance it will get nerfed.

Now read Vegas's original post about the builds of his LBs. A combined 160 points in speed/agility and 115 in strength/tackling. That's balanced?

FWIW I understand being frustrated trying to adjust to changes, it's just that everyone playing the game is playing by the same set of evolving rules. It's just that many posts made in this thread and elsewhere express this idea that just because a player enjoyed early success in his career means that he should be entitled to similar success from that point forward into perpetuity.

thehazyone hit the nail squarely on the head when he points out how disrespectful threads like this are of the competition. No one wins in USA Pro or any other quality league just because Bort did something to cover up their incompetence. Any effective power back in Season 7 has dedicated a long time developing according to a specific vision... a vision that must have been hard to stick with and keep paying money to pursue during the preceding several seasons of mediocre performance. Dismissing that hard work by saying that "it's BS for a pure power build to break tackles by a pure speed/agility build" is as disrespectful as it is unreasonable.

It comes across as basically saying "we deserved to win but we were cheated" and no one respects a team who actually thinks or says that. Taking your ball and going home (quitting the game) after losing gets even less respect. That's not just GLB, that's life.

It's funny how a thread about Megatron powerbacks is slowly slurred into poor sportsmanship - lmao! You guys like warm milk at night don't you

I guess it all comes down to ethics.....If I have to be the wheel that squeaks it, so btch it. No where in any of my threads have I ever attacked another team - so go tell the sportsmanship bedtime stories somewhere else...lower leagues. In fact, I genuinely respect that you are all as dedicated to the game. I don't care if we win or lose....what I care about is the quality of the game.

At the start of the season, I encourage all the managers to boost. In doing so, they also ask for advice on where and how to build a successful player. Why? Because they want to 1) ENJOY the game and 2) win. So, they roll out the credit card and purchase $20-$100 worth of FP understanding that they are going to get a level of enjoyment out of the game and having confidence that the owner of the team they are affiliated with is going to help them to do so. They spend their hard earned jack on this game for one reason only....to ENJOY IT.

For the most part, Bort has hit a homerun with this game and we've rolled out a few trophies. Trust me, we do enjoy the good competition, no doubt, Pro has given us all we can handle - but at some point you have to say 'BS' on what's happening wthe the powerbacks in an attempt to invoke CHANGE....for the betterment of the game itself. I can't imagine what would happen if you applied the GLB roller coaster ride of your precious 'hard worker' to any other business model. Wait, don't worry about that. Let me relate this way, anyone ever played in a FF league where the owner changes the stat settings right in the middle of the season w/out telling a soul.....?

It comes down to ethics - if changes are made then do a decent job of informing your clients with adequate transparency.

Yeah, but maybe it's not a problem with the quality of the game at all.

Let's look at 3 of OFGs more recent games

vs Green Bay: Green Bay misses 5 tackles in a win...one of those misses was from a WR
vs Gridiron Rage: 17 missed
vs Cincinnati Shockers: 10 missed

Doesn't that tell you that maybe it is your D that needs to work on tackling rather than Bort needing to change the code yet again so your team can tackle?

Originally posted by thehazyone
Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco

Originally posted by coachviking


I agree with PP adapt and overcome. Stop bitching and figure it out.

Funny that an owner with 3-4 pro level players himself turns makes this comment. The GLB Army has spoken....I'm sure your army will be happy to accommodate your ever demanding need to stay up with your demands for GLB change with their OWN financial resources....and provide you with 40 more goats next season all with brown spots. The question we'd like to know the answer to is when are you going to really help them over the fence?

OK, I have 30+ pro level players and I'll say it. I also have no affiliation with MEM, hell I've never even spoken to a single one of their agents. I am personally tired, however, of coming into this forum and seeing a thread or post every time your team loses about how such and such is the cause for it and how much the game is fucked up as a result of it. Many teams, mine included, have been hit by the power back overpowered bug but you don't see them bitching about it. Every one has to deal with the same issues on the same level.

Deal with it and quit the whining, cluttering up the forum, and making excuses for your losses. Your team is good (better than mine), but so are the teams that have beat you. Show some respect when you lose and thank them for a good game and move on to the next game.

Actually I have 7 4 OPL 3 CPL Just want to keep the facts straight.

And what does the amount of players you have to do with the amount of bitching you do.

BOTTOM LINE YOUR TEAM SUCKS AT TACKLING

32 teams in USA Pro and NO ONE else is bitching but you about broken tackles


That is all

Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco
It's funny how a thread about Megatron powerbacks is slowly slurred into poor sportsmanship - lmao! You guys like warm milk at night don't you

I guess it all comes down to ethics.....If I have to be the wheel that squeaks it, so btch it. No where in any of my threads have I ever attacked another team - so go tell the sportsmanship bedtime stories somewhere else...lower leagues. In fact, I genuinely respect that you are all as dedicated to the game. I don't care if we win or lose....what I care about is the quality of the game.

At the start of the season, I encourage all the managers to boost. In doing so, they also ask for advice on where and how to build a successful player. Why? Because they want to 1) ENJOY the game and 2) win. So, they roll out the credit card and purchase $20-$100 worth of FP understanding that they are going to get a level of enjoyment out of the game and having confidence that the owner of the team they are affiliated with is going to help them to do so. They spend their hard earned jack on this game for one reason only....to ENJOY IT.

For the most part, Bort has hit a homerun with this game and we've rolled out a few trophies. Trust me, we do enjoy the good competition, no doubt, Pro has given us all we can handle - but at some point you have to say 'BS' on what's happening wthe the powerbacks in an attempt to invoke CHANGE....for the betterment of the game itself. I can't imagine what would happen if you applied the GLB roller coaster ride of your precious 'hard worker' to any other business model. Wait, don't worry about that. Let me relate this way, anyone ever played in a FF league where the owner changes the stat settings right in the middle of the season w/out telling a soul.....?

It comes down to ethics - if changes are made then do a decent job of informing your clients with adequate transparency.

You teams tackling builds SUCK

It's not Power backs it's your team and tactics

Only 4 teams in USA PRO have more missed tackles than you GUESS WHAT they are all either 100% CPU or GUTTED.

/thread

Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco
....what I care about is the quality of the game.

Which is why you argue that 50 tackling should reliably stop a power back?

I think you're arguing more about the quality of your own win percentage than what is good for the game. Which makes me think that you don't often compete against human opponents... otherwise you understand how ridiculous it is to think that there should be any one "perfect" build. Your high speed will be more effective against some teams than others, and your low tackling exposes you to a similar effect from power running teams. This game would be boring if the same defenders could stop everything.

strength, tackling, confidence and accepting that you're not going to make every tackle.

80/80 speed/agility with 50 tackling is more like a safety than a LB.

Originally posted by joemiken
strength, tackling, confidence and accepting that you're not going to make every tackle.

80/80 speed/agility with 50 tackling is more like a safety than a LB.

How about 90/70

Originally posted by coachviking
You teams tackling builds SUCK

It's not Power backs it's your team and tactics

Only 4 teams in USA PRO have more missed tackles than you GUESS WHAT they are all either 100% CPU or GUTTED.

/thread

We've been gutted all season long by powerbacks - cut us some slack

CV, Have you paid for L48 equipment for your team yet?

Originally posted by joemiken
strength, tackling, confidence and accepting that you're not going to make every tackle.

80/80 speed/agility with 50 tackling is more like a safety than a LB.
Don't you dare try to get this thread back on topic!

Originally posted by Painmaker
Which is why you argue that 50 tackling should reliably stop a power back?

Never argued that at all.....just asked for where we needed to change if you read my original post.