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Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
I would cap carrying next. I think it makes your running of the ball more effective...sort of like the more you have, the more comfortable your back is at carrying the ball. It also helps a little with broken tackles, and prevents fumbles. Both of my backs have it at least capped.


yeah I think that's it. I have been noticing lately when he runs the ball shakes in his hand. specially when he does moves.maybe it's a carrying thing.
 
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Being elusive,wouldn't(vision) being able to see the field clearly will help along with agility to be elusive ?
 
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Originally posted by tmarze
Being elusive,wouldn't(vision) being able to see the field clearly will help along with agility to be elusive ?


Logically speaking yes it would, but not in GLB.
 
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Being elusive,wouldn't(vision) being able to see the field clearly will help along with agility to be elusive ?


Logically speaking yes it would, but not in GLB.


IMO HBs like Dorsett, Barry Sanders,Curtis Martin were true elusive backs,They could cutback in an instant due to being very agile and were able to see,Sanders carried it further with having very high speed to go along with high agility,and vision

Most of the elusive backs I see in GLB are really speedbacks with not much cutback ability and perhaps poor field vision.
 
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Originally posted by tmarze
Originally posted by Viscount

Originally posted by tmarze


Being elusive,wouldn't(vision) being able to see the field clearly will help along with agility to be elusive ?


Logically speaking yes it would, but not in GLB.


IMO HBs like Dorsett, Barry Sanders,Curtis Martin were true elusive backs,They could cutback in an instant due to being very agile and were able to see,Sanders carried it further with having very high speed to go along with high agility,and vision

Most of the elusive backs I see in GLB are really speedbacks with not much cutback ability and perhaps poor field vision.


yeah but even when vision is raised it doesn't net much worth. I want to improve not just get a tad better. vision for an elusive back would be great if it worked right.
 
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Originally posted by Viscount


Originally posted by tmarze



Being elusive,wouldn't(vision) being able to see the field clearly will help along with agility to be elusive ?


Logically speaking yes it would, but not in GLB.


IMO HBs like Dorsett, Barry Sanders,Curtis Martin were true elusive backs,They could cutback in an instant due to being very agile and were able to see,Sanders carried it further with having very high speed to go along with high agility,and vision

Most of the elusive backs I see in GLB are really speedbacks with not much cutback ability and perhaps poor field vision.


yeah but even when vision is raised it doesn't net much worth. I want to improve not just get a tad better. vision for an elusive back would be great if it worked right.


I agree, combined high vision with high agility IMO should be the building blocks for a true elusive back.
 
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I would say the following is important -

- Speed and Agility should be as close as possible, but still a little more Speed. This can be done by your equipment; split the basic four on Speed and Agility, then your custom equipment can be on Speed for that difference.

- Stamina has to be at 40+ and Carrying and Confidence needs to be capped or near it.

- Vision is crap! Most SA's are crap or debatable what will actually help, but putting points in them will help; however, it won't turn you into a god over night!


It's been mentioned here already, but take into consideration of not only your build, but your offensive line too. After that it depends on your offensive coordinator calling the right plays.

After all of that, consider what league you're in. If you have a level 30 HB in the lowest league, you had better be running all over everyone. If you're in Pro, don't expect to be a god unless you've considered the above first.

This is my 2 cents and these are my proof -

Pop Warner - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=43361

T.D. Warner - http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=252496
 
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Well I have been running on elusive slider at 60, with all my equipment in speed all season. I switched equipment and put it back on combo. Let's see how he does now. I am going with 85 speed and 80 agility with 50 str running on combo from here on out.
 
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Slippery will suck until the elusive slider makes more sense to use. Just an opinion.

slippery sure is good against bad teams though. Bahahahahha
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I have 2 HB's one completely blows and one is pretty damn good.

Speed and agility are close with the VA adjustment, but last season I had a breakout season when vision was increased above 50. I cant say for sure but it sure felt like he he did a lot better at picking spots to hit when running up the middle. Pitches outside are still not working and he just ends up running to the sideline or into the CB.

I ran on all combo last year but this season with the changes I have been testing the different game settings. I think elusive is working a bit better now but still not where I think it should be. Combo seems to be the most consistant but it is really hard to tell unless you play the same team 3 times with each team using the same settings.

 
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Originally posted by Bladow
I have 2 HB's one completely blows and one is pretty damn good.

Speed and agility are close with the VA adjustment, but last season I had a breakout season when vision was increased above 50. I cant say for sure but it sure felt like he he did a lot better at picking spots to hit when running up the middle. Pitches outside are still not working and he just ends up running to the sideline or into the CB.

I ran on all combo last year but this season with the changes I have been testing the different game settings. I think elusive is working a bit better now but still not where I think it should be. Combo seems to be the most consistant but it is really hard to tell unless you play the same team 3 times with each team using the same settings.



I'm with you. I have been trying elusive all season. Last year he ran on combo. I agree it's a little better, but not where it should be. Now I am going to run on combo the rest of the season.
 
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Backs with Agility > Speed work better elusive. Speed or equal Agi backs work better on combo. imho.
 
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He's running in the bbb leagues so don't be too harshOur whole team is level 20-25.
Level 21
Natural agility he's at 60.62
Natural Speed he's at 52.62 with equipment 70.62
Natural Strength is at 36.62
Natural carrying is at 30.62
Natural vision is at 32.62
Natural confidence is at 21.62
SA's 4 Quick Cut.That's it.

He's starting to blossom since I started getting his carrying up.He's got a lot of work to do, but he's showing promise.I plan to make him a combo back.
Shows some elusiveness here.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=301446&pbp_id=6580576
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=301446&pbp_id=6580576
 
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Originally posted by staggart
well considering the hbs are nerfed again. hbs only seem to be good against bad competition. it seems every season it goes back and forth. Last season hbs could dominate good teams, this season a running based team is screwed. The inside run is basically worthless unless you out level the opposing team.

so your answer, in my opinion for this season is it doesnt matter because we are all gonna suck against equal or better competition.


Not even close to true. The RB on the team my QB is on (Earl) is a beast and we run him up the middle all day.
 
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Originally posted by shaun123987
Originally posted by staggart

well considering the hbs are nerfed again. hbs only seem to be good against bad competition. it seems every season it goes back and forth. Last season hbs could dominate good teams, this season a running based team is screwed. The inside run is basically worthless unless you out level the opposing team.

so your answer, in my opinion for this season is it doesnt matter because we are all gonna suck against equal or better competition.


Not even close to true. The RB on the team my QB is on (Earl) is a beast and we run him up the middle all day.


Ya I just ripped off 5 yards a carry against a good team.
 
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