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Originally posted by Ares408
Yeah, I've noticed that the improved LB run coverage and the reduction in speed through the line has really put a damper on lot of RBs. I can't complain though because the changes have given my RB pretty gaudy numbers. I know it's just scrimmage games but he's gotten 343 yds on 35 rushes (9.8 avg), with 37 broken tackles and 9 TDs in just these two games. I'm sure my viewpoint will change when I have to find some way to stop another power back with my defense ;P.

37 broken tackles and 9 tds in 2 games.....and yet the running game is 'better'? Thank you for posting that Ares - this game has taken a big step back in the running game. What use to be an 'AI and build' advantage has now become solely a 'build' advantage - not what I consider an improvement.

I wouldn't go that far.

Everyone thought HHW was invincible when they ran for over 7000 yards last season. But the best gameplanners find a way throughout the season to figure out a way to slow things like that down.

The interior OL or DTs, could be either, have also been dramatically nerfed/improved. On the one hand, I'm thrilled that my DTs are doing so well thus far, previously a weakness on GB, but am now disappointed at how little movement my inside 3 OLmen are now getting, previously a strength. I can't help but think that the change was rather senseless, myself. Change for change's sake. Last season many ppl bitched about the running game being too good (and they were both right to a certain extent and wrong to an extent, IMO). Maybe it was just me, but I really thought that by the end of last season most good Ds had adjusted their builds and tactics enough to slow the run game down to reasonable levels. This season, ppl will just bitch about how ineffective the OL is, how DTs are too good and that power backs need to be nerfed (and they will be both right to a certain extent and wrong to an extent, IMO). How are we really any better off? All that's happened is a new problem has been created.

Personally, I don't care how it ends up, just that the change for change's sake ends already. give us a solid target and stop moving it already, unless it at least serve a legit purpose. Most of the sim changes of the last 2 seasons at least have just resulted in nerfing the strong side and empowering the previously weak side, putting the situation in reverse, but not actually fixing anything.

Don't worry, though, next season it will be changed back again. Power backs will be nerfed again, as they were a couple seasons ago, DT's will be nerfed, as they were a couple seasons ago, the inside OL will become overpowering again and everything that was done to tweak builds and tactics to counter this season's strengths will be worthless again. I really don't get how everyone doesn't see the cycle that has happened ever since the great speed nerf. Honestly, look at every skill that was nerfed. 1-2 seasons later, Bort just makes it powerful again anyway.

Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco
Originally posted by Ares408

Yeah, I've noticed that the improved LB run coverage and the reduction in speed through the line has really put a damper on lot of RBs. I can't complain though because the changes have given my RB pretty gaudy numbers. I know it's just scrimmage games but he's gotten 343 yds on 35 rushes (9.8 avg), with 37 broken tackles and 9 TDs in just these two games. I'm sure my viewpoint will change when I have to find some way to stop another power back with my defense ;P.

37 broken tackles and 9 tds in 2 games.....and yet the running game is 'better'? Thank you for posting that Ares - this game has taken a big step back in the running game. What use to be an 'AI and build' advantage has now become solely a 'build' advantage - not what I consider an improvement.

I never said the running game is "better". I just like how my RB has been running in the preseason lol. I mean it's tough to even define what "better" is. Will the running game be "better" if it's more realistic in terms of NFL or college, and currently, whom is it better for? There's a lot of contrasting viewpoints on who you ask. Also, AI and build are always going to be intertwined. If you really wanted too, some deficiencies in build can be ameliorated by stacking equipment around differently if you have the resources to do so. If there's a will there's always a way.

Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco

Originally posted by Romeorr


fact is alot of teams would throw 8-9 in the box and the hb would still gain 5-8yds a carry, does that seem real?

Show me 1 game where a team had 5-8 yard average per carry against 2 equally matched teams...with a decent defensive gameplan.

FACT IS....the best you could hope for was 3.5 - 4 yards per carry:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=286284
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=274483
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=287960

Not too hard to find to be honest:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=210176

Or just look at most of HHWs and South Bays games last season.



Yeah, but this the 2nd game between HHW and MIN http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=285821

^^ Still nearly 5 ypc with the HBs, and he didn't say every game he just said find 1

Originally posted by jfbueno
I wouldn't go that far.

Everyone thought HHW was invincible when they ran for over 7000 yards last season. But the best gameplanners find a way throughout the season to figure out a way to slow things like that down.

I think there is little doubt that we (HHW) is one of the best running teams in the GLB, we are built toward the running game, so it isn't really fair to put our numbers up and say how crazy the running game is. Most teams can't run the ball like us. As good as our running game is, it was pretty much kept in check at the end of last season and in the playoffs. The running game at the end of last season was fine IMO, there wasn't any need to change it.

It seems that Bort enjoys changing things around a bit, maybe people complain too much, or maybe he just want change things up to keep the game interesting. Although we have adjusted every season so far, and will continue to adjust, it does get tiresome.

Originally posted by Galkuris
^^ Still nearly 5 ypc with the HBs, and he didn't say every game he just said find 1

5 yards a carry is not all that bad. Especially considering that the team is built on running the ball.

too true PP

Originally posted by datongw
Originally posted by jfbueno

I wouldn't go that far.

Everyone thought HHW was invincible when they ran for over 7000 yards last season. But the best gameplanners find a way throughout the season to figure out a way to slow things like that down.

I think there is little doubt that we (HHW) is one of the best running teams in the GLB, we are built toward the running game, so it isn't really fair to put our numbers up and say how crazy the running game is. Most teams can't run the ball like us. As good as our running game is, it was pretty much kept in check at the end of last season and in the playoffs. The running game at the end of last season was fine IMO, there wasn't any need to change it.

It seems that Bort enjoys changing things around a bit, maybe people complain too much, or maybe he just want change things up to keep the game interesting. Although we have adjusted every season so far, and will continue to adjust, it does get tiresome.

I think it's a bit of both. Bort likes to change things and people whine at just about everything(SI). It's just the nature of the beast I suppose.

Originally posted by zero
too true PP

I also agree with PP's post wholeheartedly.

Originally posted by
I really don't get how everyone doesn't see the cycle

Originally posted by
he just want change things up to keep the game interesting

who doesn't have good memories about SF, MK, Tekken, and today have just abandoned this kind of game... they're all the same! Why wii is a success, with old fashion graphics? Because it's different.

And that cycle makes GLB controversial and therefore, amusing




but yes, I don't like either this power back superpowers, neither last season endless and always succesful running game, both aren't real, and i don't hope them to be. Funny part is the challenge of being the first to figure how to overcome those things and try to win.


crapy part is when it changes too much, when you're leveld 35+, it's not that easy to get builds changed.

Originally posted by didi



And that cycle makes GLB controversial and therefore, amusing


Though that may possibly be true, if Bort is making changes to keep players excited/interested, he's making a huge mistake, IMO. I'm aware of by far more owners & players that are claiming they're quitting after this season than ever before. To a man, they are citing the frustrations over the every season changes to their players as the primary reason. I'm not saying that's the reason everyone is quitting, just why the ppl I know are. As I wrote, I enjoy this game and not planning on going anywhere, but a higher % of those I know here are about to ditch this place than I've ever seen before, and most are players that believed they were in it for the long haul up until their players got turned on their heads again. For them, it's gotten sickening, not amusing, and I can't say I blame them much.