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A high strength NT with heavy points in Wall and Break through, and a high agility DT with heavy points in Shed Block and Strong Base is a winning combination. The idea is to have your NT not give up any ground on the double teams and help seal the off tackle gap against the run (it helps to have a very good strong side DE but that's a discussion for another thread) and a quicker more agile DT that can beat one on one match ups to get penetration into the backfield.

Throw in a bad ass blitzing ROLB and you're on your way to contending for a title.


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Originally posted by HydrOshocK
A high strength NT with heavy points in Wall and Break through, and a high agility DT with heavy points in Shed Block and Strong Base is a winning combination. The idea is to have your NT not give up any ground on the double teams and help seal the off tackle gap against the run (it helps to have a very good strong side DE but that's a discussion for another thread) and a quicker more agile DT that can beat one on one match ups to get penetration into the backfield.

Throw in a bad ass blitzing ROLB and you're on your way to contending for a title.


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By Joe, I think he's got it!

One thing I will throw out there is that a lot of better teams are starting to have their LGs pump up agility in lieu of strength. So against some match-ups, using STR will put you at an advantage. For others, you need to abuse their AGI.

IMO, high STR DTs and NTs are better for the team, but your stats and replays sure won't be exciting to look at as an owner.

there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

well, speed is what would suffer

Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

well, speed is what would suffer


how much speed does a pass rushing dt needs anyway?

Originally posted by Guernon
Originally posted by Dudly

Originally posted by Darren McFadden


there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

well, speed is what would suffer


how much speed does a pass rushing dt needs anyway?

If he wants sacks, quite a lot.

Originally posted by idm03
Originally posted by Guernon

Originally posted by Dudly


Originally posted by Darren McFadden



there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

well, speed is what would suffer


how much speed does a pass rushing dt needs anyway?

If he wants sacks, quite a lot.



i am shooting for 68 (long term)

Originally posted by Guernon
Originally posted by Dudly

Originally posted by Darren McFadden


there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

well, speed is what would suffer


how much speed does a pass rushing dt needs anyway?

When I hit 60, which was right when I could boost for the season, I noticed a dramatic improvement in hurries and sacks. in all his preseason games and the first game of the season he recorded multiple sacks.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Guernon

Originally posted by Dudly


Originally posted by Darren McFadden



there's no real reason a DT can't have 80+ in both strength and agility by level 28 or so and you'd be better off for it.

well, speed is what would suffer


how much speed does a pass rushing dt needs anyway?

When I hit 60, which was right when I could boost for the season, I noticed a dramatic improvement in hurries and sacks. in all his preseason games and the first game of the season he recorded multiple sacks.

Underdogs - I actually appreciate your insight. I think most of the time its right on but I have got to question your observations so far for season 7. Your team is overmatching teams in both skill and more importantly Levels that its not an apples to apples comparison. I just don't think you're going to get a good gauge on the changes Bort has made because you guys are so ahead of everyone in your league with regard to levels.

I feel strength is more important for the team's success. True agility might get you more stats, but if you want wins go for strength. Best situation i think would be is to have a very high strength 90+ starting NT with around 60 to 70 agility, a starting DT with 80+ strength and 75 to 85 agility, and finally a backup DT with very high agility and less emphasis on strength. The backup DT will more than likely have a favourably matchup against a tired O-line or a backup O-line.

I feel like my DT would help my team a lot less with lower agility, he breaks up run plays as well as gets to the QB.

Both are important.

this was the most helpful forum topic that i have read. Lots of good info in here. I'm building a runstopping NT. So this gets a bump from me.

As more and more guards focus on agility and less on strength, you're going to start to find that pure strength DTs will serve a purpose, but you're always going to need enough speed and agility to get at the QB even if you do push back or knock down the guard.

My left guard gets pushed around quite a bit by high strength guys, since he's heavy agility, but he went strength first. The new breed coming in that will be 70-80 str, 70 agility to stop the dominant agility based DT sack artists could be hurt by strength DTs in the future.

Right now, agility is better, but who knows what the future holds. Four seasons ago, power HBs were the laughing stock of the league, and 5 seasons ago, anyone with more than 30 tackle on defense was chastised for a bad build.