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jpjn94
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Originally posted by ScreamingWeasel
Originally posted by jpjn94

... I could gut my team right now and sign all Level 1 players. Asked to be regulated back to BBB and turn around and sign all Level 40 players that no one else can afford. This seems to be the latest craze going around.

AKA: The Flathead Just Go Krazy strategy.



I wasn't necessarily implying it happened here, but I'm on a lot of teams and I've noticed it in a lot of places. Not to mention I had to deal with it in BBB 15 back in Season 3 too.
 
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Originally posted by jpjn94
Originally posted by ScreamingWeasel

Originally posted by jpjn94


... I could gut my team right now and sign all Level 1 players. Asked to be regulated back to BBB and turn around and sign all Level 40 players that no one else can afford. This seems to be the latest craze going around.

AKA: The Flathead Just Go Krazy strategy.



I wasn't necessarily implying it happened here, but I'm on a lot of teams and I've noticed it in a lot of places. Not to mention I had to deal with it in BBB 15 back in Season 3 too.


I was actually talking to more of SW
 
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How can equipment NOT be worth it if you have the money?

Buying equipment at level 32+ is ususally worth 16 skill points, or an offseasons boost.
 
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How do you get 16 skill points?

Body UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K
Feet UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K
Head UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K
Hands UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K

4 points for $800,000.

PLEASE correct me if I'm not seeing something.
I've got 4 LV32+ players I'll skill up tonight.
 
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Originally posted by ScreamingWeasel
How do you get 16 skill points?

Body UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K
Feet UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K
Head UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K
Hands UpGrade +1 point to an attribute - $200K

4 points for $800,000.

PLEASE correct me if I'm not seeing something.
I've got 4 LV32+ players I'll skill up tonight.


At the higher level of skills, it costs 4 (or more?) skill points for each +1 skill value.

For instance, if your natural skill level for a character (no equipment) is at 60, then it costs 12 skill points (or a little over two level ups) to increase the skill by four points. I'd guess that the higher your natural skill goes, the more skill points it costs to raise the skill higher and there's probably a point where you start getting into the 4, 5, 6, or maybe even more skill points per skill increase.

At least, I think that's what he's talking about.
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Originally posted by aggie4you
At the higher level of skills, it costs 4 or more skill points for each +1 skill value.

At least, I think that's what he's talking about.


Gotcha.
Upgrading through XP (4 skill points for +1) vs paying for equipment upgrades.

I think the key here is the "How can equipment NOT be worth it if you have the money?" part.


You know ...
I think a lot of the discussion and some of the difference of opinion around here
gets back to the stadium issue raised earlier.

It's like there's 2 different games going on at the same time.

I, for one, would like to see the stadium builds involved.

Yea. I know revenue is important. And more power to the owner that's been around
long enough, or smart enough, to realize that.

But it's beginning to dawn on me that just possibly your skill at the game as an owner, a GM, a game planner, a leader ...
Your football knowledge and the management of your team counts for waaaay
less than the number of nachos you can sell.





Last edited Dec 10, 2008 15:24:00
 
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Originally posted by ScreamingWeasel

Call me slow, but it's beginning to dawn on me that just possibly your
skill at the game as an owner, a GM, a game planner, a leader.
Your football knowledge and the management of your team counts for waaaay
less than the number of nachos you can sell.

Welcome to the real world.

Actually, it's somewhat cyclical (Chicken and Egg type stuff). Having a bigger stadium allows you to fit more people. If your team sucks though, the people won't come. Having a good team brings in more BITS (butts in the seats). More BITS = more $ = better team makeup (hopefully) + stadium upgrades = More BITS...

If you spend all of your money on players, then you *might* have the best team in the league *this year*. Unfortunately, you'll have to play higher salaries next year and you won't be able to support them with your tiny stadium (hypothetically speaking). If you spend all of your money on stadium upgrades this year, your team won't be worth crap and nobody will come to your gigantic "coliseum of garbage". That leaves you with no money to sign new players for next season. It's definitely a give and take proposition.

The best teams usually have a good businessperson as the owner and people knowledgeable about football as GMs/Coordinators (occasionally, all of htese guys can be rolled into one, but it usually causes problems on one side or the other somewhere down the line). The businessperson understands that giving max salary + max bonus to a top level guy for a one year contract has the opportunity to increase the team level this year, but is a short term solution and could cripple the team in other areas. A good businessperson would prefer to spend the money adding on to their customer base by increase the # of seats and bringing in an up and coming star for less than the level 48 "moneydrain". Of course, if you can afford the level 48 "moneydrain", then obviously you bring them in if you have the chance.

I hope I didn't give away any "super secret" GLB information there.
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jpjn94
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See that's your problem; you're trying to sell a lot of nachos when you need to be focusing on selling jerseys!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by aggie4you
Welcome to the real world.


LOL. Yea. I deserved that.





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http://goallineblitz.com/game/stadium.pl?team_id=1411

But ... wait a minute.
Despite the odds ...
A team whose 17,680 seat stadium is located in the ghetto?
Who's fan base is basically homeless and on food stamps?

They actually made the playoffs?

IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!!!!!!!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/p_frensley/CBChristmas.jpg
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Originally posted by ScreamingWeasel
http://goallineblitz.com/game/stadium.pl?team_id=1411

But ... wait a minute.
Despite the odds ...
A team whose 17,680 seat stadium is located in the ghetto?
Who's fan base is basically homeless and on food stamps?

They actually made the playoffs?

IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!!!!!!!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/p_frensley/CBChristmas.jpg


How are you guys that bad off? I mean my team isn't even that bad off and you guys have been here a lot long (or longer) then I have.
 
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Check out the Breakers stadium...
 
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Originally posted by Sam Bolster
How are you guys that bad off? I mean my team isn't even that bad off and you guys have been here a lot long (or longer) then I have.

Yea. Exactly.

My philosophy (though THAT may be changing now) has been that players are
more important than hot dogs.
Players are where the rubber meets the road. I used to think.
I pay my players. That way I get a team that's loyal, and is 90%
under 2 and 3 year contracts.

And. Uhhhhhh. Oh yea.
I missed the deadline for stadium construction between seasons 4 and 5 by ...
wait for it ... 15 minutes.
No lie.
I appealed to Bort. Begged for mercy. All to no avail.
Stadium construction is (*bull*cough*shit*) "automated".



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Originally posted by Ethaan
Check out the Breakers stadium...


IT'S (ANOTHER) CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g318/p_frensley/CBMiracle.jpg
 
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Originally posted by ScreamingWeasel
Originally posted by Sam Bolster

How are you guys that bad off? I mean my team isn't even that bad off and you guys have been here a lot long (or longer) then I have.

Yea. Exactly.

My philosophy (though THAT may be changing now) has been that players are
more important than hot dogs.
Players are where the rubber meets the road. I used to think.
I pay my players. That way I get a team that's loyal, and is 90%
under 2 and 3 year contracts.

And. Uhhhhhh. Oh yea.
I missed the deadline for stadium construction between seasons 4 and 5 by ...
wait for it ... 15 minutes.
No lie.
I appealed to Bort. Begged for mercy. All to no avail.
Stadium construction is (*bull*cough*shit*) "automated".





Lol the thing is though your philosophy is a bit whack then if you ask me. Sure you want players to be happy. All coaches do but they are not going to be happy if you can't build a stadium.

How much have you guys put in this season for stadium constructions?
 
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