Warrior General Games

Originally posted by OMGWTF
Originally posted by UnderDogs



http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=216449&pbp_id=6627924

There isn't a single juke in that play, it's all quick cuts and first step.

Uh, he juked both the SS and FS, they stopped dead in their tracks just like Tea Baggins used to make DB's do with head fake. . . if you can't see that man, I don't know what to tell you. The only other SA I've seen that makes players do that is stiff arm.

well someone told me a juke was running through a guy like head fake.

I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

Originally posted by UnderDogs
I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

That is a missed tackle.

Looks like the defender tried to dive at him, or something similar, and missed.

And he did exactly what you think is a juke to the f.s. in this run.

Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by UnderDogs

I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

That is a missed tackle.

Looks like the defender tried to dive at him, or something similar, and missed.

Nice try only one missed tackle, and about 4 people missed altogether.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by UnderDogs


I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

That is a missed tackle.

Looks like the defender tried to dive at him, or something similar, and missed.

Nice try only one missed tackle, and about 4 people missed altogether.

wat

Originally posted by Viscount

Is this confirmation that DMP has high Juke?!



I plead the 5th!!!

Originally posted by Viscount

I just picked 1 random game from your game log to look at and he's a beast!:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=269972&pbp_id=5034501

Thanks!!!

Originally posted by Viscount


Also, is this Stiff Arm?: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=269972&pbp_id=5032458

Could be but I don't have any points into the Stiff Arm SA. According to the play description it's just a missed tackle.



DMP

Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Bukowski


Originally posted by UnderDogs



I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

That is a missed tackle.

Looks like the defender tried to dive at him, or something similar, and missed.

Nice try only one missed tackle, and about 4 people missed altogether.

wat

You're an idiot. All you do is talk sh*t and act like you know everything about the damn game. If anyone tries to have a debate about something you either call them stupid or act like your a living legend.

I am being serious. I hear juke works, I hear it sucks. Personally with personal experience with it. I think it sucks. I am challenging anyone to show me how good juke can be. I am still waiting. until then, I'm not wasting what I believe to be 6 sp's so far in a worthless stat now. Flames had a h.b. he retired with 9 in juke.

Head fake was explained as running though a guy with no missed tackle. I would assume juke looks the same? Also If you look at the play I just posted, The linebacker, the S.S. look like they got what you people call juked. AND HE doesn't have a single s.a.

So yes act f*cking retarded. act like you're god's gift to glb. Show me proof without a shadow of a doubt juke makes you a better player. But no instead keep rambling on about nothing, because you have no life whatsoever. All you do is put down people all day. You're worthless bro. A WORTHLESS SACK OF SH*T.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Bukowski



Originally posted by UnderDogs




I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

That is a missed tackle.

Looks like the defender tried to dive at him, or something similar, and missed.

Nice try only one missed tackle, and about 4 people missed altogether.

wat

You're an idiot. All you do is talk sh*t and act like you know everything about the damn game. If anyone tries to have a debate about something you either call them stupid or act like your a living legend.

I am being serious. I hear juke works, I hear it sucks. Personally with personal experience with it. I think it sucks. I am challenging anyone to show me how good juke can be. I am still waiting. until then, I'm not wasting what I believe to be 6 sp's so far in a worthless stat now. Flames had a h.b. he retired with 9 in juke.

Head fake was explained as running though a guy with no missed tackle. I would assume juke looks the same? Also If you look at the play I just posted, The linebacker, the S.S. look like they got what you people call juked. AND HE doesn't have a single s.a.

So yes act f*cking retarded. act like you're god's gift to glb. Show me proof without a shadow of a doubt juke makes you a better player. But no instead keep rambling on about nothing, because you have no life whatsoever. All you do is put down people all day. You're worthless bro. A WORTHLESS SACK OF SH*T.


Dude.. Everyone fucking hates you.

You're in every one of these position talk forums, going on and on and on about what you don't have a clue about.

Everyone makes it a point to NOT invite you to their private forums.

Do you not get it?

No one wants you around here. Everyone disputes every single thing you've ever said.

Please do us a favor and leave.

Go KILL yourself.

Don't believe me?

Listen to everyone else:

Originally posted by OMGWTF


Thank you.

UnderDogs spits in everyone's shadow. I think there's some deep-seeded anger that gets vented through e-fights.

Originally posted by Rod Long


No, I just preach good LB play. Obviously that fact is lost on you. I have been ahead of the curve with the changes to the game all season long in regards to this attribute having a significantly increased effect noticeable at the highest levels of the game.

I'm here to help people. Not sure why you are here but to spit in my shadow.

Originally posted by Rod Long
Originally posted by UnderDogs

So in other words, you build your linebackers like corners. Soft cap speed agility then vision. then cap speed again and again. train str and tackling together and play on wrap up. except for corners you probably wouldn't train those.

That sounds like a good route to take.

and invest heavily in diving tackle, shed block, and swat ball.

I haven't advocated a single one of those strategies that you described in your post. None. Read the thread


Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by bobellyn


Being a newbie, I think I screwed up http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=926775

Go ahead and retire that guy and start over. you don't need a single point in big sack.

But if you don't care, then pump speed to cap. then agility, then vision. stop spending on s.a's for now. and you probably wasted a point in defense gen when you might not even be playing m.l.b.

You have to decide before you build. Do you want to play middle, or O.L.B, then build accordingly.

it looks like you have no real direction you're heading with him.

This is exactly why I made this thread. Exactly. Because of posts like this. Its terribly frustrating for people to get advice like this from people playing themselves off like they know what works when they don't have a player or team that they OWN/GM/ or are ON that is winning/productive.

Originally posted by UnderDogs

You have to decide before you build. Do you want to play middle, or O.L.B, then build accordingly.


seriously, stop forever.

Originally posted by Rod Long
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by UnderDogs




It's an experimental build. Experiment. Everybody on this game knows what you know bro. you're not a know it all. you're not the end all be all of everything about this game. I'm sure when bort said a certain number isn't needed to trigger a trash talking based s.a. could be interpreted a number of ways.



You don't know shit.

No one wants you here, yet you continue to post this incoherent nonsense.

Please do everyone a favor, and never post in any of these forums again. You are exactly what is wrong with these position talk forums, as people like you are the one's responsible for all of the redundant, false information that is floating out there.

We're all tired of your act.

Get out of here.



Awesome.

Originally posted by LostPeon
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by UnderDogs




It's an experimental build. Experiment. Everybody on this game knows what you know bro. you're not a know it all. you're not the end all be all of everything about this game. I'm sure when bort said a certain number isn't needed to trigger a trash talking based s.a. could be interpreted a number of ways.



You don't know shit.

No one wants you here, yet you continue to post this incoherent nonsense.

Please do everyone a favor, and never post in any of these forums again. You are exactly what is wrong with these position talk forums, as people like you are the one's responsible for all of the redundant, false information that is floating out there.

We're all tired of your act.

Get out of here.



qft

Originally posted by JSSynister
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Agility means nothing unless you play *good* competition. Then you will see how much you need then. Until you play *good* competition, discuss agility. Speed will always beat teams where everyone has lower speed than you. When you square off against teams who all have 80+ speed on the defense, your speed will get you nowhere, and you will wish you had agility.

So go ahead and knock agility, but don't ever play in a good league.

tell me, what would you know about playing in a good league?

Originally posted by skel1977
Please tell me where anyone said that 30 agility is enough? No one said that so you cant. Please STFU. You are stupid and can not comprehend what is being said. Your running back has shitty stats and no one should listen to anything you say.

Also just thought you should know how many private forums your name came up in with a "please do not invite underdogs" too. There were a bunch as a matter of fact. Maybe its because they don't want bad advice being spread around in their posts.

Originally posted by Lord Thomas Drake
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by skel1977


Please tell me where anyone said that 30 agility is enough? No one said that so you cant. Please STFU. You are stupid and can not comprehend what is being said. Your running back has shitty stats and no one should listen to anything you say.

Also just thought you should know how many private forums your name came up in with a "please do not invite underdogs" too. There were a bunch as a matter of fact. Maybe its because they don't want bad advice being spread around in their posts.

You're the one not comprehending you fucking jerk off. It says agility is over rated. he isn't even starting he is a back up. agility is quite possible the second most important attribute for a running back. NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL IS IT OVER RATED. everyone argues that speed is the end all be all for hb's it's not. and you show me one build with 110 fucking speed and 30 agility with success. It's already common knowledge hb's need agility. and this loser who isn't even starting is bashing it. what if some newb reads this and never puts anything into agility and winds up with the shittiest build ever. I thought you went crazy already and stopped talking to me. let's continue that trend. as for my h.b. we'll see this year. he is a slow build you twit. and now he is almost done. last year he played back up almost all season. now that he is starting let's see what he does. if he sucks, then I will admit you're right. until then AGILITY IS NOT OVER RATED.

you sir are a dumbfuck and don't read. If you would of read down below you would of saw I stated I have almost 90 agi, 70 speed and 9 juke. Playing against equal teams the other RB with a speed template and low agi had been doing better then my RB.

Therefore I believe its overated as far as taking it higher then speed. And What does starting got to do with anything? That just shows how jewish you truely are. My RB has got ass loads of trophies and has done great for the most part. Now that I have switched his equipment around a bit hes doing great again. This topic is simply to let people know going over 65-70 agi is pointless.

Fucking noobs calling people noobs is classic.



Originally posted by Lord Thomas Drake
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Lord Thomas Drake


underdogs i have looked at your RB you have got to be the biggest dumb fuck retard I have ever encountered on these forums.

WOW just wow your RB is shitty!

Wow yeah over 800 yards and 12 touchdowns last two game. yeah he fucking sucks.

Well I would only hope you would be getting good stats the last two games against crap load teams with CPU players and way under level.

The more you talk the more you sound like a fairy, prop 8 happened homo deal with it!

Originally posted by Mob-6
Wow, UnderDog you have got to be the biggest troll in all of GLB. Show me where I claimed my WR was dominate? Do some actual stat analysis of my guy and you'll see he is pretty damned good. I know you are to busy blowing hobo's for cash and thus don't have the time to look at stats in their context (I averaged a TD every 3 catches last season against competition that was 10 levels higher in #AA which is pretty f*in dominate and led my team in TDs for two seasons in a row despite having less than half the plays of the other WRs on my team), so maybe you should start doing some better analysis because the school systems take enough blame for producing idiots without needing more evidence.


Also, UD, if you think the prerequisite for critiquing someone elses WR is demonstrated success, where do you get off spouting tripe about mine. Your guy has 2 100 yards games this season and both were in blow out victories to terrible teams! My guy went over 100 yards with 2 TDs against the best team in our league who hadn't given up more than 14 points in their previous 4 games this season. If your going to get in a dick size competition, better make sure you have one first.

Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by UnderDogs


you're the on who did it first. DO you have any understanding of this. I didn't just come at you for no reason. Matter of fact I try not to talk to most people on here unless they say something really stupid. Get over it. You insulted someone first, then someone calls you out and you cry. waaaaaaaaa.

Man, I feel like I am dealing with a six year old here. Let's recap the undisputible facts for your highness:

1.) I critiqued a guys build who stated that "he was dominate." I merely stated that the results he had experienced were not impressive because he is a Pro level receiver playing in an AA league where he outlevels the competition. DO YOU understand the difference between success at 40 in the Pro leagues and success at 40 in AA? How do you think this is attacking someone, it is pointing out a fact.

2.)For some reason you don't understand the concept of comparing apples to apples and think it is unfair to gauge a level 38-40 WRs because he is playing pee-wee league football rather than one suited for his level. If you want to debate the merits of the claim, great, but you couldn't come up with anything and had to attack me instead. See how well that tactic worked for McCain in the last election for analysis of bad tactics.

3.) Do you even read the posts before you reply? I don't think so. You felt it necessary to make a stupid comment about my build without even offering any evidence other than saying it was stupid. If you want to debate the merits of my build, fine, I have no problem with it, but PLEASE offer something substantive. Why is my build so bad? The fact that you can't come up with anything other than further insults just goes to show your claim was baseless to begin with.

Please develop a thicker skin and come back to the forums when you can contribute something more productive than whining and name calling.

Originally posted by christianhall
Originally posted by Mob-6

Originally posted by UnderDogs



I guess the first time I asked if you expected me to read all that wasn't a hint. I have yet to read the last novel you posted, and am NOT going to read that. Get a life, seriously. All i hear is blah blah blah Im a dirty whore.

I know you read it all, and you probably read the part about your mom and the donkey twice!

What he meant was he read it, but didn't have any sort of intelligent response, so he defaulted to 'get a life'.

I'd sy that's pretty clever

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by OMGWTF

Originally posted by UnderDogs




http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=216449&pbp_id=6627924

There isn't a single juke in that play, it's all quick cuts and first step.

Uh, he juked both the SS and FS, they stopped dead in their tracks just like Tea Baggins used to make DB's do with head fake. . . if you can't see that man, I don't know what to tell you. The only other SA I've seen that makes players do that is stiff arm.

well someone told me a juke was running through a guy like head fake.

You say a lot of things that I don't believe too. I've always seen head fake/juke "freeze" a defender. In effect the defender broke the wrong way due to the juke/fake and fell down or just stalled. This would also make the most logical sense. Also notice that sometimes a player kind of slows down as they near the player (diving tackle?) versus just freezing and not registering a missed takle.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by UnderDogs


I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

That is a missed tackle.

Looks like the defender tried to dive at him, or something similar, and missed.

Nice try only one missed tackle, and about 4 people missed altogether.

There were two missed tackles on that play, the first by the LB and the second by the FS. On the original play shown (http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=216449&pbp_id=6627924) the SS missed a tackle whereas the FS didn't look like he even attempted a tackle.

Epic!

Originally posted by UnderDogs
I'm not trying to say juke is bad. Some people may like it. Some people may think they have seen jukes and such. I would like anyone to explain what's happening on this run right here. This is the back up h.b. on my team. he has no s.a's my freinds. None.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=222524&pbp_id=6855205

Explanation: The level 32 HB PWNed some level 24-26 CPU defenders.

Not impressed.

ive never seen a thread where so many people who cant agree on anything all agreed on one thing: underdog is useless.

I'd rather be able to utilize Juke than Head Fake. Have both and you're even more likely to avoid tackles. This is just common sense.