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Here's an update. I just finished getting speed to base 68 and strength 61 and honestly I like what I'm seeing. He has been getting his fair share of tackles and fumbles (top 5 on team for both). Only 2 fumbles but the last one was kinda impressive. Plus no SAs yet and still working on str to 68 and tkl to 61.

Thus far the build doesn't look like an awful idea. It's still early yet but at least now you can see his movement with 68 spd and low agl.

My next plans are work on str, tkl, vision while getting first step SA and jacking monster hit.

After the boost to str this season this build is more promising then ever.

I'll keep posted. LB Isaac Fumbles and SS Yugot Jacked will both be high spd and str players. Both lookin good so far. Tho the SS still has low str.

I'm sorry but how can you like what you're seeing? Your LB has missed 43 tackles so far this season (that's 41% of his tackle attempts). Even in your winning games in weeks 1, 6 & 8 your LB missed 7 tackles (30%). Speaking from experience I think you would've been far better served getting tackling to 68 rather than strength. It's been proven on the test server that tackling > strength.

Let me list the reasons since you obviously didn't get the point.

1) he is more often then not out lvled in the league he is In.
2) tackling hasn been touched yet. It's in the 20s of corse he is missin tackles, dummy. It's the next thing I'm workin and it will be at 60+ in no time.
3) By "like what I see" I meant just that. Watching him in replay has shown he has much better movement then expected without agility which was one of the huge ? Marks with this build.
4) he is on a slow build team, stats mean jack shit right now.
5) powerbacks are over powerful and if the past is any indication bort will be hitting them with the nerf bat soon enough.
6) this far in his career I'm only concerned with his ability to chance down plays, closing speed and if he has any lateral movement what so ever. And in those regards, I like what I see.

But hey thanks for your positivity!

Sorry for my lack of positivity but I'm just giving you my opinion. High strength LBs built to force fumbles just don't work in GLB, many have tried it, myself included.

In my last post I mentioned the test server and I recommend that you look at some of the games yourself. Recently they tried testing high strength defensive players, all of whom had 50-65 tackling, the LBs, DEs and DTs had 70, 75 and 90 strength respectively. None of them forced fumbles but many of them missed tackles.

Games:
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=367
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=362

Player builds from those games:
http://test.goallineblitz.com/game_summaries/362.txt


http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/game_list.pl

Your opinion is fine.. But I also will continue my experiment regardless....

I don't see many "Speed + Strength" LB threads around here, or from the test center (except for 1 mlb) . Sure you might have tested strength, but it also doesn't mean that strength doesn't have a Decent or Good effect on forcing fumbles when in conjunction with X, Y and Z. Especially now that Fumbles, Monster Hit and ,Big Hit in general are up this season due to Borts changes.

Consider this.... This game is constantly (for better or worse) evolving. What wasnt possible seasons 1-5 are possible now Poss WR certainly, full agility builds, etc.. Just look at the evolution of the GLB Power HB... This season they can carry a teams offense single handed. Strength is becoming more important (finally). This build is for the future.. +2 more seasons in "building mode"... Then lets see what happens.

I have been part of GLB since day 1. I won the championship season II. I have seen the evolution of the game and test centers are not to be taken as the end all be all answer to anything. They, like the main server, are always changing.

This is only a damn experiment anyway.. If it doesnt work, I spent 200 pts on this project, I doubt ill be crying over it.. In the meantime it gives me personal enjoyment to test things out for myself.

If you dont like it, you dont have to be here. Thanks for your opinion. Please dont reply back to this with a "retaliation". Some people might be curious and interested in the experiment, so let us ignorant people have our fun.

I know GLB does not equal the NFL, but while strength may break tackles in GLB and in real life it's technique that forces fumbles and/or a mistake by the ball carrier. I think technique equates to tackling in GLB and a mistake y the ball carrier would be due to morale. I would link you to another test server game showing the effects of morale causing multiple consecutive fumbles, but to be honest I doubt that you'd watch it.

Anyway goodluck with your experiment.

Strength has absolutely no effect on FF's, or at least it didn't as of Season 6. My FS had 5 FF's that year, while having a whopping 25ish strength.

Not knocking your build, but just wanted to show how str was working for me so far.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=594888

This is probably my worst built player by far. The equipment bonus in str/tkl is from my endorsement, not my normal gear.

I miss a TON of tackles. I play on wrap up, have +15% to make tackle, and 2 in wrap up tackle.

I should of reversed my build, and 2nd capd tackle while still training low str.

Originally posted by Viscount
I know GLB does not equal the NFL, but while strength may break tackles in GLB and in real life it's technique that forces fumbles and/or a mistake by the ball carrier. I think technique equates to tackling in GLB and a mistake y the ball carrier would be due to morale. I would link you to another test server game showing the effects of morale causing multiple consecutive fumbles, but to be honest I doubt that you'd watch it.
Anyway goodluck with your experiment.
This would be interesting to see. Was the confidence levels of the tacklers at like 50?


As someone else already stated, wouldnt agility help out a lot more rather than speed for a MLB? Im reading the LB forums because I would like to make a LB in the next few seasons.

just contributing. I am leveling a MLB along similar lines... My current long term goals are
68 str
68 tack
61 agi
61 vis
61 spd
capped in that order.

With the right defensive plan, the need for speed "could" be a bit negated... I want to see if a LB can actually stop the run =)

I'll let you know how it turns out! (in like 6 seasons!)

Originally posted by Viscount
Sorry for my lack of positivity but I'm just giving you my opinion. High strength LBs built to force fumbles just don't work in GLB, many have tried it, myself included.

In my last post I mentioned the test server and I recommend that you look at some of the games yourself. Recently they tried testing high strength defensive players, all of whom had 50-65 tackling, the LBs, DEs and DTs had 70, 75 and 90 strength respectively. None of them forced fumbles but many of them missed tackles.



I have to say this only because it supports your initial logic wrong. I went with a slightly different path than what the OP did also out of curiosity. I wanted to try a high strength/high agility MLB/ILB since I havent seen many out there and it just makes sense to me. My 23 LB put up similar numbers as the OPs LB but I had more FFum and a pair more sacks.

STR: 68
SPD: 51
AGI: 70
TKL: 32

99 Tackles, 11 FFum, 3 Sacks in the regular season(another FFum in the playoff game against the #1 seeded team). 16 missed tackles. I plan on getting STR and AGI to 68 natural, speed and vision to 61, not sure about tackling yet, ill probably take it to 61 as well at some point.

I pumped 10 into strength this previous off-season. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=74423

Missed Tackles- down
FFM- up
Sacks- up
Hurries- up

I also went from USA AA#1 to USA AAA#2 which isnt a joke league at all
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Originally posted by staggart
I pumped 10 into strength this previous off-season. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=74423

Missed Tackles- down
FFM- up
Sacks- up
Hurries- up

I also went from USA AA#1 to USA AAA#2 which isnt a joke league at all
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FF are way up this season in general however.

I left the game for awhile. I might be coming back soon. Hopefully FF builds are more viable now. But i doubt it, since I have little to no faith in the conceptual knowledge of building solid football players from Bort and the Devs...

Originally posted by xxsyrusvb
I left the game for awhile. I might be coming back soon. Hopefully FF builds are more viable now. But i doubt it, since I have little to no faith in the conceptual knowledge of building solid football players from Bort and the Devs...


Coming from someone who thinks 40 tackling and 50 agility is a good idea for a LB...I can't say that carries a whole lot of weight.