Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Parab00n
Originally posted by lrunkle911

Originally posted by Parab00n


Originally posted by lrunkle911



let me guess run right.

Did it every play-off game besides one. I basically mailed my playbook too them, not my fault if they didn't make the adjustments.

Its a hard thing to stop even when you know it is coming.



Not at all, just have to make an effort. You can stop it from the 4-3, 3-4, or goalline. You just got to figure out who to blitz, who to shift in each formation. We have completely shut down the formation multiple times this season other teams I GM for.



it really depends on the offense players abilities too. some teams aren't good at running the off tackle. they don't have the right kind of halfbacks or line or blocking TE/FBs to pull it off. teams that have the right make up to run it are pretty unstoppable though.

the converse is also true. you have to not only have the right formations to stop it but you have to have the personnel that can play those positions. and even then against a good run team it is hard to keep it under 3-4 yards a pop.

ah ok, I see its being discussed here also.

Yeah I think all you need to do is a strong side LB shift blitzing the MLB (or LILB) and LOLB and stack the box. Then it all depends on the players you got. Overall I would have to say the play is overpowered and its been complained about many times in the main forums. Hopefully Bort does something to tweak it so that people dont exploit it.

Originally posted by lrunkle911
Originally posted by Parab00n

Originally posted by lrunkle911


Originally posted by Parab00n



Originally posted by lrunkle911




let me guess run right.

Did it every play-off game besides one. I basically mailed my playbook too them, not my fault if they didn't make the adjustments.

Its a hard thing to stop even when you know it is coming.



Not at all, just have to make an effort. You can stop it from the 4-3, 3-4, or goalline. You just got to figure out who to blitz, who to shift in each formation. We have completely shut down the formation multiple times this season other teams I GM for.



it really depends on the offense players abilities too. some teams aren't good at running the off tackle. they don't have the right kind of halfbacks or line or blocking TE/FBs to pull it off. teams that have the right make up to run it are pretty unstoppable though.

the converse is also true. you have to not only have the right formations to stop it but you have to have the personnel that can play those positions. and even then against a good run team it is hard to keep it under 3-4 yards a pop.



The Beavers not only game plan well, they also have a lot of really good players on both sides of the ball. I knew what was coming and we couldn't stop it. I think the Beavers even if they are forced to change there game plan will still have success at the next level because they are balanced offensively if they want to be and have a great defense.

Don't really wanna give away a secret to stop our gameplan.

Originally posted by presvedder
Originally posted by lrunkle911

Originally posted by Parab00n


Originally posted by lrunkle911



Originally posted by Parab00n




Originally posted by lrunkle911





let me guess run right.

Did it every play-off game besides one. I basically mailed my playbook too them, not my fault if they didn't make the adjustments.

Its a hard thing to stop even when you know it is coming.



Not at all, just have to make an effort. You can stop it from the 4-3, 3-4, or goalline. You just got to figure out who to blitz, who to shift in each formation. We have completely shut down the formation multiple times this season other teams I GM for.



it really depends on the offense players abilities too. some teams aren't good at running the off tackle. they don't have the right kind of halfbacks or line or blocking TE/FBs to pull it off. teams that have the right make up to run it are pretty unstoppable though.

the converse is also true. you have to not only have the right formations to stop it but you have to have the personnel that can play those positions. and even then against a good run team it is hard to keep it under 3-4 yards a pop.



The Beavers not only game plan well, they also have a lot of really good players on both sides of the ball. I knew what was coming and we couldn't stop it. I think the Beavers even if they are forced to change there game plan will still have success at the next level because they are balanced offensively if they want to be and have a great defense.


I do agree with this, that the Beavers are a great team. Thats why its kinda odd (and I know Im gonna get grief for this) that they have to resort to such a cheap play when they obviously dont need to. It kinda reminds me of the whole Patriots/Spy Gate thing. Did the Patriots really have to resort to shadey activity? They probably would have done just as well without spygate.

The Aces did have a better defense vs the off tackle but unless Im mistaken you guys didnt blitz your LOLB? The Beavers also got a little more tricky on it by passing to the TE out of the Strong I formation.

Originally posted by Spedro Gonzalez
Originally posted by presvedder

Originally posted by lrunkle911


Originally posted by Parab00n



Originally posted by lrunkle911




Originally posted by Parab00n





Originally posted by lrunkle911






let me guess run right.

Did it every play-off game besides one. I basically mailed my playbook too them, not my fault if they didn't make the adjustments.

Its a hard thing to stop even when you know it is coming.



Not at all, just have to make an effort. You can stop it from the 4-3, 3-4, or goalline. You just got to figure out who to blitz, who to shift in each formation. We have completely shut down the formation multiple times this season other teams I GM for.



it really depends on the offense players abilities too. some teams aren't good at running the off tackle. they don't have the right kind of halfbacks or line or blocking TE/FBs to pull it off. teams that have the right make up to run it are pretty unstoppable though.

the converse is also true. you have to not only have the right formations to stop it but you have to have the personnel that can play those positions. and even then against a good run team it is hard to keep it under 3-4 yards a pop.



The Beavers not only game plan well, they also have a lot of really good players on both sides of the ball. I knew what was coming and we couldn't stop it. I think the Beavers even if they are forced to change there game plan will still have success at the next level because they are balanced offensively if they want to be and have a great defense.


I do agree with this, that the Beavers are a great team. Thats why its kinda odd (and I know Im gonna get grief for this) that they have to resort to such a cheap play when they obviously dont need to. It kinda reminds me of the whole Patriots/Spy Gate thing. Did the Patriots really have to resort to shadey activity? They probably would have done just as well without spygate.

The Aces did have a better defense vs the off tackle but unless Im mistaken you guys didnt blitz your LOLB? The Beavers also got a little more tricky on it by passing to the TE out of the Strong I formation.

whats the cheap play?

hitting TD passes from 80 and 50 yards?

Originally posted by Spedro Gonzalez
Originally posted by presvedder

Originally posted by lrunkle911


Originally posted by Parab00n



Originally posted by lrunkle911




Originally posted by Parab00n





Originally posted by lrunkle911






let me guess run right.

Did it every play-off game besides one. I basically mailed my playbook too them, not my fault if they didn't make the adjustments.

Its a hard thing to stop even when you know it is coming.



Not at all, just have to make an effort. You can stop it from the 4-3, 3-4, or goalline. You just got to figure out who to blitz, who to shift in each formation. We have completely shut down the formation multiple times this season other teams I GM for.



it really depends on the offense players abilities too. some teams aren't good at running the off tackle. they don't have the right kind of halfbacks or line or blocking TE/FBs to pull it off. teams that have the right make up to run it are pretty unstoppable though.

the converse is also true. you have to not only have the right formations to stop it but you have to have the personnel that can play those positions. and even then against a good run team it is hard to keep it under 3-4 yards a pop.



The Beavers not only game plan well, they also have a lot of really good players on both sides of the ball. I knew what was coming and we couldn't stop it. I think the Beavers even if they are forced to change there game plan will still have success at the next level because they are balanced offensively if they want to be and have a great defense.


I do agree with this, that the Beavers are a great team. Thats why its kinda odd (and I know Im gonna get grief for this) that they have to resort to such a cheap play when they obviously dont need to. It kinda reminds me of the whole Patriots/Spy Gate thing. Did the Patriots really have to resort to shadey activity? They probably would have done just as well without spygate.

The Aces did have a better defense vs the off tackle but unless Im mistaken you guys didnt blitz your LOLB? The Beavers also got a little more tricky on it by passing to the TE out of the Strong I formation.

I don't blame the Beavers for running that play. It works and they have the personnel to run it perfectly. My problem with the play is all the cutback lanes that are available in the off tackle run.

Without giving away what we did, not that it was great, but it was the best that they have seen in BBB. We did bring our LOLB.

Originally posted by Spedro Gonzalez
Originally posted by presvedder

Originally posted by lrunkle911


Originally posted by Parab00n



Originally posted by lrunkle911




Originally posted by Parab00n





Originally posted by lrunkle911






let me guess run right.

Did it every play-off game besides one. I basically mailed my playbook too them, not my fault if they didn't make the adjustments.

Its a hard thing to stop even when you know it is coming.



Not at all, just have to make an effort. You can stop it from the 4-3, 3-4, or goalline. You just got to figure out who to blitz, who to shift in each formation. We have completely shut down the formation multiple times this season other teams I GM for.



it really depends on the offense players abilities too. some teams aren't good at running the off tackle. they don't have the right kind of halfbacks or line or blocking TE/FBs to pull it off. teams that have the right make up to run it are pretty unstoppable though.

the converse is also true. you have to not only have the right formations to stop it but you have to have the personnel that can play those positions. and even then against a good run team it is hard to keep it under 3-4 yards a pop.



The Beavers not only game plan well, they also have a lot of really good players on both sides of the ball. I knew what was coming and we couldn't stop it. I think the Beavers even if they are forced to change there game plan will still have success at the next level because they are balanced offensively if they want to be and have a great defense.


I do agree with this, that the Beavers are a great team. Thats why its kinda odd (and I know Im gonna get grief for this) that they have to resort to such a cheap play when they obviously dont need to. It kinda reminds me of the whole Patriots/Spy Gate thing. Did the Patriots really have to resort to shadey activity? They probably would have done just as well without spygate.

The Aces did have a better defense vs the off tackle but unless Im mistaken you guys didnt blitz your LOLB? The Beavers also got a little more tricky on it by passing to the TE out of the Strong I formation.

Either way, we still boasted arguably one of the best defenses in the league and never gave up more than 23 points. I still like our chances of the offense putting up at least that many points with a different gameplan.

whoops! didn't mean to start a fight. lol. was just having a discussion.

I hope I didn't sound like I was fighting. Just having a discussion.

Originally posted by Staners

whats the cheap play?

hitting TD passes from 80 and 50 yards?


Well, since you asked. Keep in mind I think you guys have a great team and definetly a great defense:

Vs Redskins on 10/19/2008:
Birmingham Beavers Rushing Direction
Far Left Left Middle Right Far Right
Attempts 1 0 15 50 3


vs Corsairs on 10/21/2008:
Birmingham Beavers Rushing Direction
Far Left Left Middle Right Far Right
Attempts 0 1 12 38 0


Vs Topes on 10/25/2008 :
Birmingham Beavers Rushing Direction
Far Left Left Middle Right Far Right
Attempts 0 0 9 56 1


vs LV Aces on 10/27:
Birmingham Beavers Rushing Direction
Far Left Left Middle Right Far Right
Attempts 0 0 11 41 0


vs Warbirds on 10/29:
Birmingham Beavers Rushing Direction
Far Left Left Middle Right Far Right
Attempts 0 0 10 55 0






edit: Sorry, I dont know how to line this info up correctly. I definetly suck at html.

It's not a cheap play by any means. It is the most dominate offensive play under a very poor offensive AI. The defense still has a HUGE advantage over the offense in this game and if you game plan right you can stop that play considering equal talent. Our game plan was no secret, why you wouldn't shift LB's, Blitz Safities, CB's is beyond me.

Originally posted by TheZaba
I hope I didn't sound like I was fighting. Just having a discussion.

I have said it since last year that you have the best defense in the league. Hell your defense scored more on us then almost every other offense was able to score.

I want a Skulls vs Beavers game.

Hey Xeef.... WEST is the BEST

"why you wouldn't shift LB's, Blitz Safities, CB's is beyond me. "

on the off chance you run a bunch of med TE plays (which you do have a tendancy to do). lol