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Sonic
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Originally posted by huskerfantic
Make powerbacks i got mine at an open build...


He won't cut it against human teams. He might get a few broken tackles though. I've seen this type of player, but with more strength and higher SA's of power throu, lower shldr, qc and first step. You'll need to have you strength up around 90, and then I'd suggest capping to the next cap agility and speed. Confidence and carrying are also important.
 
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Player Attributes
Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 45.71 Blocking: 15.46
Speed: 65.98 Tackling: 9
Agility: 63.87 Throwing: 15.46
Jumping: 18.46 Catching: 18.9
Stamina: 40.42 Carrying: 43.39
Vision: 48.17 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 35.14 Punting: 9


Elusive Back Abilities
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Power Back Abilities
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Stinkotron
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Just made an HB last night before reading this thread. I'm interested in possibly doing the 100 AGI or High level with no SA's route.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=672342
High SA build. Mainly Headfake and Juke but with CE + enough of the previous skill to get them to 11 fits the criteria for this thread it seems. 6 quick cut, 11 headfake. Only 9 juke though, with 5 first step, currently. Only 1 spin (ce). Low vision, high agility, medium speed, low carrying. Was pretty outleveled+bad line on his last team but still had moderate success. Will be halting the SA experiment to work more on my secondary stats though, but I'm sure this is high enough for this purpose.
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Nuge20
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Originally posted by ziddy
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=672342
High SA build. Mainly Headfake and Juke but with CE + enough of the previous skill to get them to 11 fits the criteria for this thread it seems. 6 quick cut, 11 headfake. Only 9 juke though, with 5 first step, currently. Only 1 spin (ce). Low vision, high agility, medium speed, low carrying. Was pretty outleveled+bad line on his last team but still had moderate success. Will be halting the SA experiment to work more on my secondary stats though, but I'm sure this is high enough for this purpose.


I need agility and speed ratings to put him up there
 
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Khako
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Im pretty interested in the builds but unless the elusive style gets fixed to not suck im sticking on balanced. The year i changed to balanced running i doubled my ypc lol
Last edited Nov 6, 2008 16:19:04
 
Asheme
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Originally posted by Nuge20
Any more SA builds???

I have a rather SA-heavy build for Chief Brighthorse.

7-7-7-9-5 (elusive) currently.
 
4th Quarter
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Originally posted by Asheme
Originally posted by Nuge20

Any more SA builds???

I have a rather SA-heavy build for Chief Brighthorse.

7-7-7-9-5 (elusive) currently.


I have a level 30 HB, with 81 speed, 69 agility and 5/3/3/4/3 SAs (w/ CE). His STR is 30 and carrying 35. He averaged almost 10 yards per carry, but it was mainly a product of a LOT of long runs. He wasnt as consistent as I would have liked.

Do you recommend pumping the elusive SAs, or would it be better to add strength and carrying with some minor power back SAs.
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Originally posted by 4th Quarter
Originally posted by Asheme

Originally posted by Nuge20


Any more SA builds???

I have a rather SA-heavy build for Chief Brighthorse.

7-7-7-9-5 (elusive) currently.


I have a level 30 HB, with 81 speed, 69 agility and 5/3/3/4/3 SAs (w/ CE). His STR is 30 and carrying 35. He averaged almost 10 yards per carry, but it was mainly a product of a LOT of long runs. He wasnt as consistent as I would have liked.

Do you recommend pumping the elusive SAs, or would it be better to add strength and carrying with some minor power back SAs.


I would say get juke or spin to 8 or more and carrying to soft cap

 
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My HB that is listed as an experimental build in the NON-SA experiments. The vision with no SAs yet build. just had his first game in an A league. He had a decent game. THe second string had a better YPC average, but I am looking for consistency right now.

HB Danny Ciccarelli
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=268056

I played on combo, and I am gonna try elusive tomorrow to see if the high vision makes a difference.

I think that once I pump my SAs (QC/HF/FS) then it will exponentially help. Elusive backs rely on fakes and the quick burst after the fake to be effecive. Right now he is running on atributes alone and the cuts are not as good as they can be. I think vision helps with the angle of the cuts. i only have custom equip in my SAs (except over up, but i am doing that as a precaution).

Here is him making the best of a bad play, but still not long at all:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268056&pbp_id=278437
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268056&pbp_id=278938

Here is where vision comes in: Sees the LB and makes the cut
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268056&pbp_id=279610

THere were plays where it looked like my HB was running INTO the LBs. I am hoping playing on elusive and not combo will fix that. We will see next game and i will post the results.

If you are level 16 in a level 13 cap league...how much of a penalty is there? I remembered my wife's WR was level 28 and looked really slow when she was in a level 13 cap league.

--Dan
 
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Vision HB update:

Here is the last game with my vision HB Danny Ciccarelli:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=268057

I used elusive running. I think it really helps on pass plays more than run plays.


Plays:

Reception, sees a hole closing and cuts to the sidelines for a TD (Te helped a lot)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268057&pbp_id=830821
Same pass play, different time. I am putting this play in my pocket!!!
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268057&pbp_id=831075


Punt return:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268057&pbp_id=831778

Long run:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=268057&pbp_id=832184


There were about 4 runs that weren't 4 yards or more (all were draws from shotgun). I had a TFL from that draw play.

By looking at the game, I really need some first step, but i am gonna stay disciplined.

--Dan

P.S. Has anyone had success with power running on an elusive buld with girlish strength?
 
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your players good at higher levels he'll b a beast when he gets faster
 
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Originally posted by a12872344
your players good at higher levels he'll b a beast when he gets faster


Its gonna take a long time to prove that. Right now, i need 10 more SP to get speed to the second cap, and 10 more SP to get agility to the second cap.

I am gonna need carrying real soon as well. I am gonna 2cap speed and agility, then focs on carrying.

After that I will go for SAs. Crap, by that route, i will not have anything in SAs until I hit level 27. I don;t know if i can hold out that long.

Thanks for the kind words. I am just tryng to make a consistent HB. One that still manages to get 4 yards on a broken play.

-_Dan
Last edited Nov 9, 2008 22:08:02
 
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well u could train both of them wouldnt that save sp?
 
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