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I hope to have all of the votes in by Wednesday night.

So far I've received 4 team's votes. Please submit your vote by Wednesday the 5th so I can tally up the votes. Thanks!

Here are the standings so far:

Position Player Votes
QB: Brady "The Cannon" Anderson
QB: HJ Simpson 2
QB: T.D. McSack
HB: Allen Schmidt 2
HB: Awe Day
HB: Billy Cannon
FB: Roger Craig
FB: Tank Abbot
FB: Alex Roberts
TE: Timm Tindall Jr.
TE: Stephen Laurence 2
OT: Bruce Strongarm 3
OT: Cosmo Monk 2
OT: Block Wall
OT: Pancake Williams
OG: Crazy Canuck 3
OG: Justin Mathis
OG: Jeff Francoeur 2
OG: Xavier Octavio
C: JUMBO CHAMBERLIN 4
WR: Kletian Drowa 3
WR: matta . 2
WR: Thunder McNasty 3

DT: Howard Longest 4
DT: Jon Scott
DT: Vince Vilwork 1
DE: Brogan Thorr 3
DE: B.B. YATES 2
DE: Stinky McStinkstink
DE: Sacky DeTweed
LB: Ashe Handed2U 3
LB: Snoop Van Der Doog 3
LB: Varent Holland
LB: Aleksei "The RHINO" Sytsevich
LB: Eddie "VENOM" Brock
LB: Zalbag Beoulve
CB: Flash Jordan 3
CB: Buddy Hiccson
CB: Jimmy Douglas
CB: Zippy O'Callahan 2
SS: T.G. "Thundergod" Cid 2
SS: Sgt. Shutdown
SS: Kristen Heath
FS: Ethan Albrite 3

K: Shebbear Devon 3
K: Brent Hatley
P: Calder Bender 4

KR: Clarence Tyler 3
KR: Danny Dierking
PR: Brandon J Douglas
PR: Clarence Tyler 2
PR: Peydert Murlock

Im kicking our guys to convince someone to vote for the otters

Here's a game by game of our best player, WR Kletian Drowa. We were 2-14 so he's the guy on the gutted team putting up stats against the good teams, and as you can see it was pretty consistently 7-10 catches for 100+ yards every game of the year, even when we're getting blown out!

Week Team Opp Score Rec Yds TD (Opponents Record)
1 IVA ANC L20-58--7 110.5 1 (14-2-0)
2 IVA ROC L43-14--2 69.5 1 (8-8-0)
3 IVA RAP L16-56--8 133.0 1 (13-3-0)
4 IVA PIT W24-30--10 111.5 1 (4-12-0)
5 IVA CHI L7-66---7 117.5 1 (6-10-0)
6 IVA UNC L44-14--15 198.0 1 (11-5-0)
7 IVA SAN L24-42--13 193.5 0 (4-12-0)
8 IVA ALL W7-40---18 268.0 1 (0-16-0)
9 IVA DEA L21-44--9 99.5 2 (10-6-0)
10 IVA MID L26-3---8 103.5 0 (6-10-0)
11 IVA SOU L30-33--8 203.0 3 (2-14-0)
12 IVA SAN L9-55---9 206.0 1 (7-9-0)
13 IVA CAP L54-3---4 59.0 0 (15-1-0)
14 IVA DVD L3-86---3 25.0 0 (13-3-0)
15 IVA SIO L49-17--3 40.5 0 (12-4-0)
16 IVA SAL L77-10--7 131.5 0 (12-4-0)

Originally posted by skyrook52
Here's a game by game of our best player, WR Kletian Drowa. We were 2-14 so he's the guy on the gutted team putting up stats against the good teams, and as you can see it was pretty consistently 7-10 catches for 100+ yards every game of the year, even when we're getting blown out!


Michigan had a CPU WR put up 2000 yards in a season when they lost every game by 100+

Ballot for Ivalice

QB: Frosty Crenshaw
HB: Billy Cannon
FB: Roger Craig
TE: Harris Clark
OT: Pancake Williams
OT: Billy Bob Talbott
OG: Greg Shedelbauer
OG: Bigbad williams
C: Rocky Skintone
WR: Kletian Drowa
WR: Rocky Skintone

DT: Vince Vilwork
DT: Howard Longest
DE: Sacky DeTweed
DE: Brogan Thor
LB: Zalbag Beoulve
LB: Snoop Van Der Doog
LB: Varent Holland
CB: Buddy Hicson
CB: Zippy O'Callahan
SS: T.G. "Thundergod" Cid
FS: Ray Tango

K: Javier Automatica
P: Calder Bender

KR: Clarence Tyler
PR: Clarence Tyler

Originally posted by matta


Michigan had a CPU WR put up 2000 yards in a season when they lost every game by 100+



CPU's can do funny things. Seen a tight end average 30 receptions a game on a CPU team in another league. Didn't know CPU players were nominate-able.

Originally posted by skyrook52
Ballot for Ivalice

WR: Kletian Drowa


I like Kletian, but you still can't vote for your own players. (self-votes are disounted)

Originally posted by skyrook52
Originally posted by matta



Michigan had a CPU WR put up 2000 yards in a season when they lost every game by 100+



CPU's can do funny things. Seen a tight end average 30 receptions a game on a CPU team in another league. Didn't know CPU players were nominate-able.

No, the guy was horrible and caught passes from a TE (they had no QB). They just set the AI to prefer to throw to that receiver, and on almost every down, they made a pass attempt to him. If you throw it to a guy 25 times a game, he's going to have 15 catches, even if he's horrible.

So just because a guy on a bad team puts up good numbers doesn't mean that the guy is any good.

Votes (finally) from the Shadowblades. Thanks for keeping after this Jon:

QB: T.D. McSack: 53 TDs and 4800+ yards in only 519 attempts

HB: Billy Cannon: 2400 yds, 44 TD, only 2 Fumbles on 16 carries / game

FB: Tank Abbot: 4.3 YPC, 7 TD

TE: Stephen Laurence: 113 rec, ~1200 yds, 7 TD

OT: Bruce Strongarm: 186 'cakes on 59 plays/game

OT: Cosmo Monk: 133 'cakes on 50 plays/game against each of the top Ds

OG: Jeffrey Francoer: 100 'cakes and impossible to get through all year

OG: Crazy Canuck: 108 'cakes in 51 plays/game, and equally impenetrable

C: Jumbo Chamberlain: 72 'cakes on 35 plays/game, and anchor of a great line

WR: Kletian Drowa: 131 rec, ~2070yds, 130 Yds/Game

WR: Thunder McNasty: 89 rec only 7 drops, 19 TDs

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DT: Howard Longest: 27 Sacks, 30 Hurries, 2 PD, 1 INT (TD), 1 FF

DT: Jon Scott: 24 Sacks, 29 Hurries, 1 FF, 3 FR, 4 PD

DE: Brogan Thorr: 69 Sacks, 59 Hurries, 2 FF, 2 FR, 1 Safety, 5 PD

DE: Sacky DeTweed: 40 Sackes (3 vs us), 52 Hurries, 2 FF, 1 Safety, 4 PD

LB: Snoop Van Der Doog: 144 Tackles (only 8 misses), 11 Sacks, 15 PD, 1 INT, 2 FF

LB: Cutter Wilson: 92 Tackles, 6 Hurries, 5 Sacks, 5 PD, 2 INT, 2 FF, 1 FR, 1 Safety

LB: Varent Holland: 122 Tackles (ONLY 2 MISSES), 1 Hurry, 2 PD, 1 FF, 3 FR

CB: Zippy O'Callahan: 15 INT, 43 PD, 6 TD, 1 FF

CB: Flash Jordan: 86(!) Sacks, 205 Tackles (15 Miss), 54 Hurries, 6 PD, 2 INT (1 TD), 5 FF, 1 FR

(Personal Safety qualification: Must have below 10% Missed Tackles (Misses/Tackles) for consideration based on tackles)

SS: Henry Rodgers: 113 Tackles vs 8 Miss, 25 PD, 5 FF, 1 FR

FS: Campy Longbottom: 84 Tackles vs 7 Miss, 14 PD, 3 INT, 2 FF, 6 FR (3 TD)

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K: Shebbear Devon: 85.3%, 8/11 FG 40+, 95.7% XP

P: Calder Bender: 44.5 Avg Yds on 96 Punts, 2 Tackles

KR: Clarence Tyler: 33 yd avg on 50 returns, 6 TD (which you think is good until ...)

PR: Clarence Tyler: 23.3 yd avg on 116 returns, 25 TD (!) (too bad he's gone MIA)

Votes (finally) from the Sioux Falls Storm.

QB: T.D. McSack

HB: Billy Cannon

FB: Roger Craig

TE: Stephen Laurence

OT: Bruce Strongarm

OT: Cosmo Monk

OG: Jeffrey Francoer

OG: Crazy Canuck

C: Jumbo Chamberlain

WR: matta

WR: Thunder McNasty

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DT: Howard Longest

DT: Jon Scott

DE: Brogan Thorr

DE: BB Yates

LB: Snoop Van Der Doog

LB: Von Killsalot

LB: Barossa LB Stopper

CB: Zippy O'Callahan

CB: Flash Jordan

SS: Kristen Heath

FS: Campy Longbottom

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K: Shebbear Devon

P: Calder Bender

KR: Clarence Tyler

PR: Clarence Tyler

I'm working on it. I'll get it in before midnight.

Sicarius, we signed Tyler to be the return man, after the first game he bitched about wanting carries at RB, and never logged on again. That position's been upgraded.

Okay 7 votes in! Come on guys keep them coming!!!!!!!!

Update:

Position Player Votes
QB: T.D. McSack 3
QB: HJ Simpson 2
QB: Brady "The Cannon" Anderson
QB: Frosty Crenshaw
HB: Billy Cannon 4
HB: Allen Schmidt 2
HB: Awe Day
FB: Roger Craig 3
FB: Tank Abbot 2
FB: Alex Roberts
TE: Stephen Laurence 4
TE: Timm Tindall Jr.
TE: Harris Clark
OT: Bruce Strongarm 5
OT: Cosmo Monk 4
OT: Pancake Williams 2
OT: Block Wall
OT: Billy Bob Talbott
OG: Crazy Canuck 5
OG: Jeff Francoeur 4
OG: Justin Mathis
OG: Xavier Octavio
OG: Greg Shedelbauer
OG: Bigbad williams
C: JUMBO CHAMBERLIN 6
C: Rocky Skintone
WR: Kletian Drowa 5
WR: Thunder McNasty 5
WR: matta . 3
WR: Rocky Skintone

DT: Howard Longest 7
DT: Jon Scott 3
DT: Vince Vilwork 2
DE: Brogan Thorr 6
DE: B.B. YATES 3
DE: Sacky DeTweed 3
DE: Stinky McStinkstink
LB: Snoop Van Der Doog 6
LB: Ashe Handed2U 3
LB: Varent Holland 3
LB: Zalbag Beoulve 2
LB: Eddie "VENOM" Brock
LB: Aleksei "The RHINO" Sytsevich
LB: Cutter Wilson
LB: Von Killsalot
LB: Barossa LB Stopper
CB: Flash Jordan 5
CB: Zippy O'Callahan 5
CB: Buddy Hiccson 2
CB: Jimmy Douglas
SS: T.G. "Thundergod" Cid 3
SS: Kristen Heath 2
SS: Sgt. Shutdown
SS: Henry Rodgers
FS: Ethan Albrite 3
FS: Campy Longbottom 2
FS: Ray Tango

K: Shebbear Devon 5
K: Brent Hatley
K: Javier Automatica
P: Calder Bender 7

KR: Clarence Tyler 6
KR: Danny Dierking
PR: Clarence Tyler 5
PR: Peydert Murlock
PR: Brandon J Douglas

Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by skyrook52

Originally posted by matta




Michigan had a CPU WR put up 2000 yards in a season when they lost every game by 100+



CPU's can do funny things. Seen a tight end average 30 receptions a game on a CPU team in another league. Didn't know CPU players were nominate-able.

No, the guy was horrible and caught passes from a TE (they had no QB). They just set the AI to prefer to throw to that receiver, and on almost every down, they made a pass attempt to him. If you throw it to a guy 25 times a game, he's going to have 15 catches, even if he's horrible.

So just because a guy on a bad team puts up good numbers doesn't mean that the guy is any good.

However, by your logic, you say that since my guy is on a bad team, he is not any good. That logic is faulty, and the presuppositions you set up in your CPU WR argument don't match that of Kletian Drowa's situation. He was never set as a favorite target, as we don't set favorite targets to try to cut back on interceptions.

I apologize for Kletian Drowa outperforming your WR and thus twisting your panties in a knot, but if you watch the games, he's routinely running right by CB's and taking long completions for scores. Yes, he was thrown to a lot, but A) you have to be thrown to a lot if you're going to get 131 catches and B) which of the top receivers in this league were not thrown to a lot? He averaged nearly 16 yards per catch... and again watching the game film you can see that he's just producing. Your argument is baseless and obviously just defensive, seeing as your receiver was the #3 vote getter. But do what you got to do.