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Originally posted by redwards
Hilarious. I designed that exact same play for those exact same formations when I was building my defensive playbook. The guy I'm playing at ROLB is an 83 speed linebacker, but through 2 games he doesn't have a single sack. Has to be player build.


What were your player tactics set to? The ROLB should be on elusive, and I think the LDE needs to be on power. If the LDE is on elusive he draws the LOT to the outside and the ROLB runs into him.
 
Bountytaker
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Crazy thought...has anyone tried running offensive plays from a goalline formation against them? If you line up two pass blocking TE's, they might help with the pickup.
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billthekill
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there is no passing out of the goalline set.
 
firehazard
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And you can't select your formation.
 
billthekill
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actually you can set the goalline formation. only formation that can be controlled.
 
Forbin
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Originally posted by billthekill
actually you can set the goalline formation. only formation that can be controlled.


I can force Goal Line, Strong-I, and Shotgun-3!

Of course, I can only call 1 play from the last 2..
 
supgreg
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You have to run the ball, a lot, and use their play against them on defense. Less deep passing keeps your team out of as much shotgun which is is mostly where you are getting blown up. Not to mention, the shorter routes will help your QB get rid of the ball. I would also set your QBs tactics to dump of often against them. If your RB is any good, he should be able to run free while their speed LBs are in the back field.
 
jsully75
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Just more speed at RG.
 
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Originally posted by caesarrodneybengal
Run down the middle. Their D is weak in the middle when they overload on the weakside


yeah that would be nice if you could but ah the only running play would result in.....a loss because that HB gets killed by the blitzing LB. Go short TE
 
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Originally posted by nickr1
The op wants to know how to stop this defense so his offense can still use the 3 wide formations.


A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop this blitz.

Also, if your opponent is using this blitz with a Cover 2, the HB will be uncovered so dump offs can work well.

 
Scrylla
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Originally posted by Havoc
Originally posted by nickr1

The op wants to know how to stop this defense so his offense can still use the 3 wide formations.


A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop this blitz.

Also, if your opponent is using this blitz with a Cover 2, the HB will be uncovered so dump offs can work well.



How? A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop.. the MLB. The problem is that its the ROLB that are getting all the sacks. Try again.
 
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Originally posted by Scrylla
Originally posted by Havoc

Originally posted by nickr1


The op wants to know how to stop this defense so his offense can still use the 3 wide formations.


A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop this blitz.

Also, if your opponent is using this blitz with a Cover 2, the HB will be uncovered so dump offs can work well.



How? A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop.. the MLB. The problem is that its the ROLB that are getting all the sacks. Try again.


I gotta agree here. I don't see how the RG can block two defenders. The blocking assignments are kind of screwy in this case. The LG doubles the NT, and leaves the gap open for the MLB to shoot through. The RG comes over, and picks up that MLB. That leaves only the HB to stop that blitzing ROLB... Good luck with that. Even if he's built to block (Which, stop and marvel at the thought of building a blocking HB) he does have a route to run in 3 or 4 of the Shotgun-3 plays alone.

The LG has to factor into the solution here, but no matter how good you build that LG, he's going to double the NT every damn time.
 
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Originally posted by Forbin
Originally posted by Scrylla


How? A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop.. the MLB. The problem is that its the ROLB that are getting all the sacks. Try again.


I gotta agree here. I don't see how the RG can block two defenders. The blocking assignments are kind of screwy in this case. The LG doubles the NT, and leaves the gap open for the MLB to shoot through. The RG comes over, and picks up that MLB. That leaves only the HB to stop that blitzing ROLB... Good luck with that. Even if he's built to block (Which, stop and marvel at the thought of building a blocking HB) he does have a route to run in 3 or 4 of the Shotgun-3 plays alone.

The LG has to factor into the solution here, but no matter how good you build that LG, he's going to double the NT every damn time.



I run that blitz frequently. I have that blitz run against my GM'd teams all the time. If you have good offensive linemen, the blitz is decent but far from broken.

The RG pulls over and seals the gap between LG and the LT. The LT stands his ground to the point where the ROLB either hits him and gets slowed a second or has to go far enough around that a good QB will usually have gotten rid of the ball before the ROLB, even the speed 80+ ones, can get the sack.

Go look at every Pro league and look at every player that currently has 30+ sacks. About 95% DEs with a couple DTs and LBs in the mix.

If this blitz was really so devastating and unblockable, wouldnt ROLBs be way up on every chart?

As an OC, I worry a lot more about a great DE build than I ever do about the 3-3-5 weakside ROLB & MLB blitz.
 
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Originally posted by Scrylla
Originally posted by Havoc

Originally posted by nickr1


The op wants to know how to stop this defense so his offense can still use the 3 wide formations.


A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop this blitz.

Also, if your opponent is using this blitz with a Cover 2, the HB will be uncovered so dump offs can work well.



How? A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop.. the MLB. The problem is that its the ROLB that are getting all the sacks. Try again.


Here is what a good RG can do against that type of blitz:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152027&pbp_id=6315721
 
dan rules
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Originally posted by MoneyMan
Originally posted by Scrylla

Originally posted by Havoc


Originally posted by nickr1



The op wants to know how to stop this defense so his offense can still use the 3 wide formations.


A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop this blitz.

Also, if your opponent is using this blitz with a Cover 2, the HB will be uncovered so dump offs can work well.



How? A fast, agile, good vision RG can usually stop.. the MLB. The problem is that its the ROLB that are getting all the sacks. Try again.


Here is what a good RG can do against that type of blitz:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152027&pbp_id=6315721


Wrong, that's a different blitz. In this blitz, the RG can only stop the MLB.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=167158&pbp_id=7168768
 
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