Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Skanker irl
Originally posted by Kingdan23

Originally posted by Kayoh


I love this idea, but now that I think about it, it may be even more affective for an HB. The only reason I say that is because the HB could get the first step to accelerate through a hole and change direction to make guys miss. Wait a second...

Tea Baggins? o_O

Exactly what I was thinking ha.



Confirmation!?

Originally posted by Kingdan23
Originally posted by Skanker irl

Originally posted by Kingdan23


Originally posted by Kayoh



I love this idea, but now that I think about it, it may be even more affective for an HB. The only reason I say that is because the HB could get the first step to accelerate through a hole and change direction to make guys miss. Wait a second...

Tea Baggins? o_O

Exactly what I was thinking ha.



Confirmation!?

Red Heron?

Originally posted by Kayoh
Originally posted by Kingdan23

Originally posted by Skanker irl


Originally posted by Kingdan23



Originally posted by Kayoh




I love this idea, but now that I think about it, it may be even more affective for an HB. The only reason I say that is because the HB could get the first step to accelerate through a hole and change direction to make guys miss. Wait a second...

Tea Baggins? o_O

Exactly what I was thinking ha.



Confirmation!?

Red Heron?

Don't they eat Red Herring?

Originally posted by Viscount
I plan on getting speed up to the 5:1 cap (73.25) on one of my WRs before putting points in any other attribute, which I should do by level 16. After that, rather than getting agility up I'm gonna get First Step follwed by Quick Cut to 9 (+1 from custom equipment). So I'm wondering if people think this will work and if anyone's had much benefit from points in First Step or Quick Cut?


Here's my WR: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=831527

Whilst doing all this I'll be training on intense, trying to focus on catching and stamina. I estimate that all this should be completed by level 25. All his equipment will go into speed, putting it well past 100.

you have to have a certain amount of agility for both of them to work.

Originally posted by Brett Snyder
Originally posted by Viscount

I plan on getting speed up to the 5:1 cap (73.25) on one of my WRs before putting points in any other attribute, which I should do by level 16. After that, rather than getting agility up I'm gonna get First Step follwed by Quick Cut to 9 (+1 from custom equipment). So I'm wondering if people think this will work and if anyone's had much benefit from points in First Step or Quick Cut?


Here's my WR: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=831527

Whilst doing all this I'll be training on intense, trying to focus on catching and stamina. I estimate that all this should be completed by level 25. All his equipment will go into speed, putting it well past 100.

you have to have a certain amount of agility for both of them to work.

How much?

Originally posted by Brett Snyder

you have to have a certain amount of agility for both of them to work.

Says who? Quick Cut maybe, but First Step absolutely not.

Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by Brett Snyder


you have to have a certain amount of agility for both of them to work.

Says who? Quick Cut maybe, but First Step absolutely not.

I say

Think of QC as a modifier to turning angle and FS as a modifier to acceleration. If you have a decent cutting ability to start with, QC can make it great. If it sucks, QC will make it decent.

This isn't to say you need Agility up in the stratosphere for them to work well (as you might need say, Spin), but you can't expect these to work that well with 25 agility. I think a build with agility at the first cap and lots of FS/QC would be very interesting, but a build with agility at 25 with FS/QC will fail, or at least not perform nearly as well as you might think.

Well we aren't arguing about what constitutes a decent improvement. The statement was that you need agility to make it work, which isn't correct. I'll agree if it is a modifier that increasing the stat only helps it, but there is no level that is needed in order for it to trigger which was implied by Brett Snyder.

Agility is overrated in terms of acceleration. I was able to keep up pace for pace with a 60 agility guy (mine was 30) when we were both similar high speed levels and I had 4 more in FS than him. This was a WR I lined up next to on a consistent basis so I have seen it time and time again. Either 30 extra agility is worthless for acceleration or FS cuts into that reducing the need for agility. If FS does make that much of a difference, agility would still be worthless for acceleration because it costs more to get to 60 agility than to 6 FS from 30 agility. The only difference I have seen agility make is for catching.

Mob-6, in that case, I agree. It is not a triggered SA. It's always active and you don't need a certain amount of anything for it to work. I would consider it highly desirable to have a decent base agility in which those SAs can enhance