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I'm confused about players NOT wanting to jump to a gutted team - guaranteed you're hitting max XP until the roster fills out. Ah well.

Also think that new owners should be able to bring some cash along - you'd think someone buying an actual franchise would have some capital in hand...

The blowouts aren't much fun, but they do give you a chuckle on a rough day at work.

Here's to the top tier duking it out and the new guys finding their way quickly

I would post more but when I post in my other league, it seems to either provoke leaguewide arguements or I annoy the hell out of everybody, so it's probably best if I stay out lol.

Team Owners can be blamed for some, they can not give all the blame to players. Yes I have a hard time finding players to come to my team. On the other hand I DO find them. I send out about 50 to 70 contracts a day IN HOPE that i get 1 or 2 to sign. It does pay off to be a very active owner. Not to blow my own horn, but to go from an ALL CPU team last season to what we have this season, come one, that is hard work that me and some of my players have put in to get the rewards. To own a gutted team is hard work, but to see what it becomes is priceless. Owners need to put in the sweat to get the benefit.

Originally posted by Korhor
Owners need to put in the sweat to get the benefit.

You do realize that you are advocating that people shuffle their life priorities to make a substantial daily time investment into a web based football MMO that they pay to play?

If you have a healthy life outside of GLB, putting more than a few hours a day into this most days is a stretch. It's nice that you can create that much time in order to improve your team, but you can't honestly expect every new owner who joins the game to have that same set of circumstanes.

Once people who play a game begin to frown upon people who don't treat the game like a job, then you're moving into creating a game of elitist who work real jobs, or expect other agents to work real jobs, in order to subsidize the imginary job they've created for themselves.

I agree with you Sanderval, but at the same time, I would much rather have an owner like Korhor than an owner who logs on every other day to see how we did in the game. My theory is that if you don't have the time to put into a team, you should just be an agent, not an owner

Well if you're checking every other day that's totally different than what i said, which was working on your team a few hours every day. You're replacing what i said with something else entirely.

And while it's great to have people as dedicated a Korhor to the game.. people like that will always be in the minority. I dunno how old Korhor is, but he's gotta be at least high school or college age.. and at that age if your real world responsibilities aren't increasing, then you're either rich, or doing something wrong.

It's nice that you all take the game seriously & all, but your glamorizing it well beyond what it really is, which is a imitation of a real life job, that most of us are not actually qualified to do, but enjoy watching. Put it on a pedastool all you want.. but anyone can be an owner for less than $10.. and for that price you're not gonna get the creme de la creme every time. You want commitment.. petition to have the ownership fee increased to $20-$25 & the seasonal fee raised to $10. Then we'll see just how commited everyone is.

I would have no problem going to a previously gutted team with new ownership.

I am happy where I am, don't get me wrong...but if I had a player not signed, I would join one just to help them out.

I never implied that you said that. I was agreeing that the game doesn't need to shift to an elitist style more than it already has, but at the same time, it's nicer to play for the more active owners. A couple hours a day is more than enough to keep a team in good shape, especially if you've got active GM's to go with it. theSHIMMY does a great job as an owner with just a couple hours or so a day.

Edit: I actually have a player on a gutted team. They are taking a good path for rebuilding by signing players cheaply this season and improving the stadium. They plan to use the extra revenue next season to bring in more talent. It's a slightly longer process, but at least they plan to be competitive at some point, unlike some teams that are used for farming <cough> MPR <cough>

I am on usually about 2 hours a day after work, during that time I send out contracts that I feel I need. periodically throughout the day I log on to check for accepted contracts then log off. So I would say about 3 hours max on this game. I agree that this should not become another "Job", but at least make it fun, which is a little difficult, but worth it. Yes, I am older and I make enough money to do what I wish. I am a H.S. and College Grad, and 8 years into my career. I love football and enjoy putting in the work to make a team good enough to compete.

I am going to speak as both an owner, GM, and player. Well back in the day when Manboobs McGooger was a wee little level 4 G fresh out of the D-Leagues looking for a human team I had numerous PMs from owners on well-built teams looking for 4th or sometimes 5th guard. I decided to try taking my guy to an absolute loser so I randomly picked a USA BBB league (#2) and found a team who had no wins who happened to have the longest losing steak in GLB at the time. So I signed with them. I know there are other players like me in GLB, but they are few and far between.

I decided to bring the whole clan to the Vikings later on and take on the DC job there. I eventually gave up because we had nobody looking for new talent and I took over GM. It was awful trying to fill the roster with solid players for that team. I originally only had signing and trading privileges, but none of our players were getting resigned so I had to ask for that too after I lost our 2 best WRs who were about our only players whose levels were equal to this league. Recruiting was 10 times worse than probably any of you but Korhor knows. I only had about 1-2 hours a day for a couple of days a week to recruit, but I managed to sign some decent players and trade for some too, but nowhere near enough to compete for a playoff spot. The fact that they knew that I knew what I was doing was enough to bring some of them to a shitty team like ours, but I had many rejections because the team, particularly the stadium sucked. Most of this was done, and I don't condone doing this unless you want to be hated and ruin your chemistry, by buying and selling players right back at a higher price so I had enough money to trade for better ones because thats what I had to do. I hate to bash him in public (probably doesn't go here anyways to see it) but Schooly was an awful owner. He checks on maybe every other day. I, along with several other agents, kept telling him to buy new sections to the stadium and he just kept ignoring me. He eventually bought more seats for one of the sections but thats it. It is almost impossible to recruit players who know what they're doing with only 2 sections to your stadium. It was so frustrating to know that this team will never be good because our owner doesn't know what he's doing and isn't committed (I could deal with one or the other but not both). Which is why, along with the restructuring of the leagues that I'm going to be leaving the Vikings after this season. It was just too much to deal with. Which reminds me that if there are any owners who read this and are looking for a FS, CB (he's essentially a Viking but I'm renting him for a DT), or guard to let me know and I'd be interested in staying with one of the original BBB #2 teams (unless my team gets put into a non-capped league, then I might bring them there). So in short, yes even while I essentially ran the team and we had several great agents, the owner really does make a huge difference even when he's hands off.

As an owner I found that if you're honest with agents and don't bullshit them they're far more likely to join you. I had only 2 agents renege on me (granted one had 7 players) when I was recruiting before my Africa A team was released. I wasn't promising them 50k signing bonuses and 90 plays a game. I said I'd pay for their equipment, but might not for all of it so I can get a stadium built, and that all of the players I'm signing will be built well. With my plan I spent maybe 7 hours on GLB before I had an almost full roster of players, all who were boosters and team players. So you don't have to invest 50 hours a week into this to turn teams around, just let the players know that you have a plan instead of sending out 1,000 offers to any and all players who will sign with you. understand why Korhor had to do it at first and now he's probably getting much better talent and filling the holes left by the guys who reneged was a bitch because of all the Canada owners sending ridiculous contracts with starting promises to the backup players I was seeking. There is still a problem with this, but there are enough decent agents out there that you can fill you team with quality players.

Anyways thats my take on GLB. I needed a good rant; I haven't had one since last week and I guess a forum one is better than none at all.

Originally posted by Korhor
I am on usually about 2 hours a day after work, during that time I send out contracts that I feel I need. periodically throughout the day I log on to check for accepted contracts then log off. So I would say about 3 hours max on this game. I agree that this should not become another "Job", but at least make it fun, which is a little difficult, but worth it. Yes, I am older and I make enough money to do what I wish. I am a H.S. and College Grad, and 8 years into my career. I love football and enjoy putting in the work to make a team good enough to compete.

I'll be quite honest Korhor, I did think you had your head in the clouds a little bit when I first joined your team with your optimism about how you'll compete for a championship soon, but you have done a good job turning this team around and I'll give you props for it.

Originally posted by Korhor

I am on usually about 2 hours a day after work, during that time I send out contracts that I feel I need.


Then I stand corrected on that note.. when you said 50 - 70 I figured you take about a minute each to check a player out & send a PM or contract. Maybe an hour for misc team stuff, spend a few minutes on forum whoring that gets away from you.. 15-45 minutes.. and that's not even accounting for looking at games, reviewing rosters, checking PT, all the normal owner maintenance, then the PR stuff like chatting up potential signees, etc etc.. it can easily add up time wise.

lol, yah, i kinda exaggerated on the 50 to 70..but I do spend more time then I should sometimes, but not all the time. All that stuff does take time, but a couple hours usually does it.

turnover sandwich on touchdown bread? The sim stopped keeping score after 255...what a joke of a game

1:26 1st & 10 OPP 23 Raghib Ferguson rush, PAT made by Killer camron [TD] up the middle (23 yd gain)

1:20 Kickoff by Killer camron, 58 yd, fielded by Noah Pickering[forced fumble: Jim Jayhawk], fumbled , recovered by Mike Leach (-0 yd return) [tackle: Walker Snowden]

1:09 1st & 10 OPP 33 Scary Tree rush [missed tackle: Alexander Jaramillo] [missed tackle: Mike Watts] [missed tackle: Noah Pickering], PAT made by Killer camron [TD] up the middle (33 yd gain)

34 sacks? 21 from a dt? really?

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