Warrior General Games

What about insta 79 dots?

We can tell that the game isn't the same, but to be fair they don't have to tell us if the game is still profitable or not, so we are all guessing.

Its hard to ask some people to buy flex to help "brighten" GLB's future when it might be obsolete in a couple seasons.

Originally posted by Mike Martz
We can tell that the game isn't the same, but to be fair they don't have to tell us if the game is still profitable or not, so we are all guessing.

Its hard to ask some people to buy flex to help "brighten" GLB's future when it might be obsolete in a couple seasons.



Thanks for that provocative and hard-hitting stance. I know you've caused a lot of us to step back and think.

Glad I can help bro

Originally posted by euchrid
I saw when you posted that, but wasn't sure if you were joking. I don't think any of us i able to predict the future with the kind of precision you're asking for. I mean, maybe the game will be around til Season 57, maybe it'll be around til Season 157. Maybe if I ask real nice Bort will shut it down tomorrow. (Just kidding!)

We've said over and over, GLB will be around as long as it's financially viable (the same applies to any of our other games). If you want to help prolong (or brighten) GLB's future, you could refer people to the site, OR you could buy Flex Points here. (More FP purchased on GLB = GLB is around longer.) But as far as the detailed financial forecast /fortune-telling you requested, I don't think we can deliver on that.

People appear to be unwilling to accept that the development of GLB has been (long) abandoned. I believe many during the long beta stage were expecting a lot more growth while understanding that GLB would never be a game that could ultimately function with a stagnant self-sufficing environment.

Personally its very clear to me when WGG says, "GLB will be around as long as it's financially viable", that it means what you have here is all that you will get until it no longer makes sense for it to keep it going. WGG is not interested in investing any more allocation of resources towards GLB than they have to. What you get is the bare minimum, and after years of the bare minimum there is no indication of that changing. These words have now been said for quite some time, so we have no reason but to believe it.

The fact of the matter is that there is zero incentive for anyone to further invest into this game as you might be stuck with unusable flex, further knowledge that the enjoyment of competition and spirit of the game will assuredly further decline, and if you do further invest you will continue to latch onto the false hope that WGG will actually finally do something to improve the enjoyment of the game (which is frankly delusional at this point).

Its really pointless to argue the specifics as to why and how we are were we are now. It would be a fruitless endeavor as time has shown us again and again that things are not going to change. My remaining left over flex is merely a sunk cost that I can not get a return on. Part of that frustrates me since I would have appreciated some insight into understanding what I was buying if they decided development and evolution of the game was going to be being abandoned, but to counterpoint nobody said it was ever guaranteed and crying about it at this point would just be mostly sour grapes.

Well said.



I know this won't get an answer, but I wonder if there is a price tag that GLB would go for?

I don't understand how this is complicated.

You should guarantee your customers that they purchase flex "on GLB" then those customers will be able to bring a least one generation of dots through plateau, unless for some reason WGG ceases to exist in the meantime. And when the time comes that GLB is no longer profitable and needs to be shut down, you stop selling flex for the game long before you shut it down.

If WGG wants to remain a profitable entity, they should at least provide customers with this basic security. We, the customers, didn't make the two-year build cycle. That's a feature and a function of the game itself. We've suggested ways to lessen that build time, and WGG isn't interested in those.

You have a loyal, dedicated fanbase here on GLB1. But it is entirely unrealistic to ask ANY of those loyal customers to refer friends, spend their own money, or worse yet, ask their friends to spend their money, on a site that won't even guarantee it will still be here tomorrow.

We get it, nothing is going to change or improve or be implemented or evolve. And yet some of us are still playing anyway. I don't think it's asking too much to "prognosticate" the future of dots that are created today.

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I'm not 'asking' anybody to do anything - if you guys want to buy points or not buy points, that's up to you. But for the couple of guys asking for assurances about GLB's longevity, it's just a fact: the game will be around as long as people are still playing it and buying Flex Points.

I feel like should also point out... Why would we bother restructuring leagues for next season if the game's demise is as imminent as you guys are implying it must be?

Originally posted by euchrid
I'm not 'asking' anybody to do anything - if you guys want to buy points or not buy points, that's up to you. But for the couple of guys asking for assurances about GLB's longevity, it's just a fact: the game will be around as long as people are still playing it and buying Flex Points.

I feel like should also point out... Why would we bother restructuring leagues for next season if the game's demise is as imminent as you guys are implying it must be?

You're the one scaring off potential dollars by continually implying that the servers "could" be shut down tomorrow, and by refusing to commit to potential customers that they will be able to spend those dollars. And you're the one making the distinctions between "GLB Flex" and just plain old flex.

Originally posted by euchrid
I'm not 'asking' anybody to do anything

Originally posted by euchrid
If you want to help prolong (or brighten) GLB's future, you could refer people to the site, OR you could buy Flex Points here. (More FP purchased on GLB = GLB is around longer.) But as far as the detailed financial forecast /fortune-telling you requested, I don't think we can deliver on that.

And yes you are

That's not a request. You want GLB to be around as long as possible, that's how you keep it around as long as possible. I did mention the site shutting down tomorrow, but if you look right after that you might notice the words "just" and "kidding".

I think, what's being asked more than anything (euchrid/WG) is that we KNOW this game isn't going to grow... not unless 2 things happen (both highly unlikely) #1, WG suddenly sees a way to enhance the code is such a way to make this game non-static (meaning, it changes enough from season to season to make it a constant challenge to everyone and not remain the same every season, making it just boring clone builds and clone teams) and thereby also sees a vast potential for this game remaining not only viable, but growing enough to really rock the add machine. And, #2, there is a DESIRE by WG to make this kind of thing happen.
Without those things then WE, the remaining stalwarts... the ones who, with our love and money and time have propelled WG along for YEARS, are requesting of you to seek, perhaps, a change in the game (like... I dunno... maybe INSTANT DOTS???) that we can really go to town on for the remainder of it's short life. What do we get? Well... kinda what we've asked for for a long time. What do you get? Perhaps a sudden influx of money from some of us... probably a sudden decrease in people playing as those of us with less resources leave for other pastures (perhaps, even, other WG games!), and... if it works, great YOU win, we win!!! It if doesn't, GREAT. We play out the string and you get server space a helluva lot sooner than this slow death by a thousand cuts.

Don't know anout you but came back this season after a 18 season break and plan to revive my team, build around 30 players and stay around for some seasons.

Originally posted by euchrid
That's not a request. You want GLB to be around as long as possible, that's how you keep it around as long as possible. I did mention the site shutting down tomorrow, but if you look right after that you might notice the words "just" and "kidding".

You're doing it passive-aggressively, but you are asking for people to buy flex. And giving no guarantees in return.

And yes, i saw you say "just kidding" and i know you're just kidding about that. But you're also not really saying anything that reassures anyone past tomorrow, so it's kind of a dumb joke. Maybe you just had to be at the spr srs daily GLB meetings to get it, I dunno.