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Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by BradyFTW

Just drop it, guys. Even if they were colluding, do the rules even say that you can't? It's just not a big deal, really. Everyone should seriously just drop it and get on with things.

Yes, the rules say you can't. You're an owner and you don't know that???

Gutting a colluding are two of the biggest problems in GLB. There are countless threads with suggestions, ideas, fixes and complaints about it.

It is a serious problem, as dishonesty, like what occurred here, make the game no fun for everyone else.

Error 1: I'm not an owner. I'm a GM, who deals exclusively with game-planning. We leave all signing decisions to our owner.

Error 2: It is not against the rules. It may be a 'problem', as subjective as that term is, but the rules do not state that what the Bandits did was illegal. Maybe it will be illegal in the final release, but it isn't now. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by BradyFTW

If anyone has a reason to gripe, it's me. I'm a GM and I have 3 starters on the team directly below the Bandits in the standings, and we're playing them tomorrow. If this was a big deal, then I'd have every reason to be up in arms over it. So why am I not? Because this crap doesn't matter. There are so many ways to get an advantage in this game that it's retarded to pick this one and try to turn it into a shitstorm. If your owner/GMs aren't doing the same types of stuff to field the best team possible, then you need new GMs.

Originally posted by Ballbright
The guy who doesn't know colluding is illegal is telling me I need a new GM because I don't allow illegal behavior...? It appears the Bandits aren't the only team losing my respect today...

I actually had a pretty positive impresison of you prior to this, since I appreciate the fact that you went out of your way to do power rankings every week. You seem like a pretty cool guy, but I really just don't understand why you're flying off the handle on this one. It's a game, FFS. Have some fun with it; don't freak out because someone does something that violates the spirit of the rules. Look- my team might very well lose to the Bandits tomorrow, and, if they do, it might have a lot to do with the players that they gained through these trades. If that's what happens, and I'll say it was a good game, congratulate them, and leave it at that. There's just no reason to work yourself into a frenzy over this stuff. The Bandits are a damn good team, with or without 'collusion'. Personally, I'm content to leave it at that. If that means you respect me less, then that's fine; I really don't care.

At the end of the day, you have multiple Burning Pride players defending the actions of the Bandits. If we don't have a problem with it, then that's a pretty decent case for it not being that big of a deal.

Originally posted by the hurricane
I know you are going to disagree with me so I might as well point this out before you pretend my team is unethical in any sense of the word. We have had the same starters since halfway through season 1. Our team has not participated in any significant trades throughout the entire life of the game. For you to somehow pretend that we are a lesser team for siding with the Bandits on this is absurd.

quoted for truth. We haven't participated in any significant trades whatsoever. The Burning Pride has had the same core group intact for over a season, now. If you respect us less since we side with the Bandits, then that's fine, I guess. Until a teammate of mine raises a concern with how we run our operation, I'll be fine with it.

Time for bed and still no response from Catspaw giving me permission to allow Drifter to login into my account. As stated earlier Drifter has agreed to log into my account and view all PM's (in and outpound).

We will see if Catspaw agrees to this tomorrow or if he is going to take the high road and not allow the PM's to be viewed. Catspaw has claimed certain things I disagree with and the PM's show this....the PM's hold the truth. Why can't Catspaw handle someone (Drifter, in this case....who btw is a player on his team) viewing the PM's and then reporting on what they saw?

Originally posted by joemalaka
Time for bed and still no response from Catspaw giving me permission to allow Drifter to login into my account. As stated earlier Drifter has agreed to log into my account and view all PM's (in and outpound).

We will see if Catspaw agrees to this tomorrow or if he is going to take the high road and not allow the PM's to be viewed. Catspaw has claimed certain things I disagree with and the PM's show this....the PM's hold the truth. Why can't Catspaw handle someone (Drifter, in this case....who btw is a player on his team) viewing the PM's and then reporting on what they saw?

Wow this thread got big lol.


How do you know Drifter won't delete the PMs and lie ;-P?

Originally posted by billyvassi
Originally posted by PS3


Unless I missed it, then I'm assuming the guy who told you "I was a mod" was the owner with the multiple accounts that was traded to the Thrashers. Seems to me like you knew someone who got traded to the Thrashers. If you were so buddy-buddy with those 2 actives left on the team, you would've traded them too.



You missed it.



I must've missed it again, in any case I give you 100% permission to post those PMs along with your source if you have nothing to hide. I'm pretty sure I know who your source is, I'm just waiting for an admin to verify some things.



And again, it wasn't an inactive team,...........of course that depends on "people's definition". But billy ran the team and the owner was active. Just because a team had a losing record doesn't make it an inactive team .

Did people not get the whole story? Why do people keep ignoring facts about player movement and keep saying the OP is just "exacting revenge"? Specific teams benefited from this so-called "gutting". That's collusion. Even the OP stated in the main GLB thread that he doesn't care about the player anymore and wants justice.

LOL at this thread.

we rule.

Originally posted by BradyFTW
Originally posted by Ballbright

Originally posted by BradyFTW


Just drop it, guys. Even if they were colluding, do the rules even say that you can't? It's just not a big deal, really. Everyone should seriously just drop it and get on with things.

Yes, the rules say you can't. You're an owner and you don't know that???

Gutting a colluding are two of the biggest problems in GLB. There are countless threads with suggestions, ideas, fixes and complaints about it.

It is a serious problem, as dishonesty, like what occurred here, make the game no fun for everyone else.

Error 1: I'm not an owner. I'm a GM, who deals exclusively with game-planning. We leave all signing decisions to our owner.

Error 2: It is not against the rules. It may be a 'problem', as subjective as that term is, but the rules do not state that what the Bandits did was illegal. Maybe it will be illegal in the final release, but it isn't now. Deal with it.

My mistake, I assumed you were an owner. Still being a GM and not knowing colluding is illeagal? C'mon guy.

What you seem to imply, and the reason I added a loss of respect for New England, is that you seem to be ok with this. It isn't ok...

Regardless of whether you think it illegal or not (and I don't see how anyone could begin to think it wasn't collusion, but apparently some people don't or won't see it), it is wrong. The entire situation is wrong.

If Billy was an NFL GM, and did what he did you can rest assured he'd be banned from the league, and there is no way in hell that trades would have gone through.

Whether or not you believe that catspaw was "unaware" of what was going on (which would be an like believing Michael Vick had no clue what was going on), what he did was unethical. That so many bandit's players would come the defense of what happened (and the one or two other people who did) is appalling, and speaks volumes about the questionable character of those people.

I'm done with trying to rehash this stuff. It's pretty clear what happened. Billy admitted in this thread that he contacted Catspaw prior to making the trade via PM. If you still believe no collusion occurred after that, you're at best stupidly naive.

As an owner of a gutted team trying to rebuild, I go through the struggle every day of trying to find good players. Some days I get lucky and sign someone, most I don't. That an undefeated team would go to these kinds of lengths to do some backwater deal and bring on more players is disgusting.

As for me, I will continue to put forth that anyone associated with this deal, and those choosing not to condemn it, have a loss of my respect. I will make it my business to make sure every team entering the league every year knows what a group of opportunistic shitbags the bandits are, and what owners are "okay" with it.

The worst part about it is they went from being the team everyone was jealous of for their 13-0 record to a bunch of douchebags overnight for no reason.

JOE has my respect for doing the right thing, speaking out in the face of adversity. For those who don't believe I'd do the same thing--google my name "Ben Allbright" read the article "Am I A Torturer"

Character comes first...even when playing a stupid internet football game...

Originally posted by PS3
Originally posted by joemalaka

Time for bed and still no response from Catspaw giving me permission to allow Drifter to login into my account. As stated earlier Drifter has agreed to log into my account and view all PM's (in and outpound).

We will see if Catspaw agrees to this tomorrow or if he is going to take the high road and not allow the PM's to be viewed. Catspaw has claimed certain things I disagree with and the PM's show this....the PM's hold the truth. Why can't Catspaw handle someone (Drifter, in this case....who btw is a player on his team) viewing the PM's and then reporting on what they saw?

Wow this thread got big lol.


How do you know Drifter won't delete the PMs and lie ;-P?




I do not know. I am putting trust into the guy, since several have stated that he is a trusted GLB'er. Support will be contacted before he logs in, just incase anything funny happens. I don't think it will, but have to make sure.

Originally posted by the hurricane


Originally posted by lerriuqs

So you like the post, even though most of the "facts" in it are wrong? Everything I've seen says the team was disbanded because the GM made a decision that smacks of of zero integrity. This speaks volumes about what you're trying to do with your team. You bench and ban the guy who appears to have some honor and keep the guy who appears to have none...Definitely something wrong with that.

That being said, are any wins from here on out tainted? No, probably not, but I'm not sure I'd want them if I was in your shoes.

FACT: The definition i gave from collusion is the definition from Webster's Dictionary online.

FACT: I don't believe it was collusion.

FACT: The Bandits got lucky.

FACT:It would have been absolutely nonsensical for the active players on Vassi's old team to be stuck there.

FACT:Trading an inactive to an inactive team doesn't hurt that team in the slightest and the Bandits bailed out that CB from several wasted weeks on his old team.

FACT:some of [the Bandits'] players run their mouths

Where the heck were my "facts" wrong? And yea disbanding a team that has a terrible owner who has quit playing and has a bunch of players trapped on the team is really classless *rolls eyes*

Well, I never talked about collusion. And from what I've seen it wasn't an inactive team - the owner still showed up - he just didn't respond to PMs - definitely not the only one who does that. The players were far from "trapped" as you put it - that's where your facts are wrong.

i say congrats to the bandits for improving your team. You going to need it if you make it far enough to play the gods.

Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by BradyFTW

Originally posted by Ballbright


Originally posted by BradyFTW



Just drop it, guys. Even if they were colluding, do the rules even say that you can't? It's just not a big deal, really. Everyone should seriously just drop it and get on with things.

Yes, the rules say you can't. You're an owner and you don't know that???

Gutting a colluding are two of the biggest problems in GLB. There are countless threads with suggestions, ideas, fixes and complaints about it.

It is a serious problem, as dishonesty, like what occurred here, make the game no fun for everyone else.

Error 1: I'm not an owner. I'm a GM, who deals exclusively with game-planning. We leave all signing decisions to our owner.

Error 2: It is not against the rules. It may be a 'problem', as subjective as that term is, but the rules do not state that what the Bandits did was illegal. Maybe it will be illegal in the final release, but it isn't now. Deal with it.

My mistake, I assumed you were an owner. Still being a GM and not knowing colluding is illeagal? C'mon guy.

What you seem to imply, and the reason I added a loss of respect for New England, is that you seem to be ok with this. It isn't ok...

Regardless of whether you think it illegal or not (and I don't see how anyone could begin to think it wasn't collusion, but apparently some people don't or won't see it), it is wrong. The entire situation is wrong.

If Billy was an NFL GM, and did what he did you can rest assured he'd be banned from the league, and there is no way in hell that trades would have gone through.

Whether or not you believe that catspaw was "unaware" of what was going on (which would be an like believing Michael Vick had no clue what was going on), what he did was unethical. That so many bandit's players would come the defense of what happened (and the one or two other people who did) is appalling, and speaks volumes about the questionable character of those people.

I'm done with trying to rehash this stuff. It's pretty clear what happened. Billy admitted in this thread that he contacted Catspaw prior to making the trade via PM. If you still believe no collusion occurred after that, you're at best stupidly naive.

As an owner of a gutted team trying to rebuild, I go through the struggle every day of trying to find good players. Some days I get lucky and sign someone, most I don't. That an undefeated team would go to these kinds of lengths to do some backwater deal and bring on more players is disgusting.

As for me, I will continue to put forth that anyone associated with this deal, and those choosing not to condemn it, have a loss of my respect. I will make it my business to make sure every team entering the league every year knows what a group of opportunistic shitbags the bandits are, and what owners are "okay" with it.

The worst part about it is they went from being the team everyone was jealous of for their 13-0 record to a bunch of douchebags overnight for no reason.

JOE has my respect for doing the right thing, speaking out in the face of adversity. For those who don't believe I'd do the same thing--google my name "Ben Allbright" read the article "Am I A Torturer"

Character comes first...even when playing a stupid internet football game...






dude ballbright get over yourself. i cant belive how much u put into this. your like a little girl.

you just want an eccuse when u lose to us.

go by some tissues, stop crying, wipe ur eyes, and man up.

How can you call what he did sabotage? He was benched for a post in the private forum? 6 plays in the next game? Looks like whoever did the depth chart is the real saboteur.

From the 1st PM catspaw said me..I feel I can post this part because of what it says.

"Otherwise your actions were uncalled for and unacceptable. Post that anywhere you want, as the GLB community knows that I am an honorable owner."

If Catspaw is so honorable why won't he allow Drifter to log into my account and read ALL the PM's. Is it because Catspaw knows the timeline he wrote was incorrect and the PM's prove it?

Hey guys, as I wake up this morning I see that this is still being discussed. Personally, when it comes to GLB, I am concentrating on trying to game plan against my next opponent and not get caught up in the BS.

Some things I notice:

Winning teams are standing up for the Bandits. If I was an owner and I saw the trade, I would say "okay, smart deal". IMO it's the losing teams who are complaining.

Ballbright has his own agenda. I don't know what it is that drives him, but I think only continued counseling or some one-on-one time with his mother may solve his deep-seeded issues.

The idea of granting someone access to another's account is just stupid. Sorry, no one is getting into my account. Not GLB, yahoo, paypal, nothing. I might as well start giving out my ATM card and PIN. Ballbright talks about character...I teach my kids to NEVER give out passwords or logins.

And 29 pages of rants is damn funny. C'mon, shouldn't you be game planning?

OK, so if someone (not ballbright or joemalaka) can PM me with a simple sentence or two (not a paragraph or a rant), I would be happy to try and answer your questions. But to rail on for 29 pages and lose sight of whatever the real issue was is just idiotic and a waste of time.

Originally posted by catspaw27
Hey guys, as I wake up this morning I see that this is still being discussed. Personally, when it comes to GLB, I am concentrating on trying to game plan against my next opponent and not get caught up in the BS.

Some things I notice:

Winning teams are standing up for the Bandits. If I was an owner and I saw the trade, I would say "okay, smart deal". IMO it's the losing teams who are complaining.

Ballbright has his own agenda. I don't know what it is that drives him, but I think only continued counseling or some one-on-one time with his mother may solve his deep-seeded issues.

The idea of granting someone access to another's account is just stupid. Sorry, no one is getting into my account. Not GLB, yahoo, paypal, nothing. I might as well start giving out my ATM card and PIN. Ballbright talks about character...I teach my kids to NEVER give out passwords or logins.

And 29 pages of rants is damn funny. C'mon, shouldn't you be game planning?

OK, so if someone (not ballbright or joemalaka) can PM me with a simple sentence or two (not a paragraph or a rant), I would be happy to try and answer your questions. But to rail on for 29 pages and lose sight of whatever the real issue was is just idiotic and a waste of time.

You have already given out misinformation to Drifter. You only gave him parts of PM's and that is it. Drifter said this, not something I am making up.

Why should people PM you to get what you want to say. So you can filter what you want to say without chance of people showing you are incorrect in a public forum? You have the chance to give Drifter (or others) the ability to log into my account and view all PM's. Why aren't you allowing this? Show you are honorable, like you say you are. Quite simple and could end all of this if you are correct in your timeline and what you have said.