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BTW it was 10 guys, not 6....

All on the same day. May 11.

That must have been one hell of an email...

Sorry, where this just looks strange. And the explaination is he sent an email to one of them and that convinced all 10 to come over on the same day?

And the team they all left is now gutted, all lvl 4s and 5s...

They are a group of guys from bacbbreaker forums, they like play alot of mmos together, mamba was running the team, and decided he didnt have the time to invest to be an owner, so on the trade forums he announced he and his guys wanted to find a new team together, there were more but I didnt get all of them, because I had alot of positions filled depth wise. So I was the team they chose due to having to talk to mamba and him liking me as an owner and my program. So he and his guys came over, and I feel like a million bucks, because they are awesome, they bring a lot of life not just to the field but to the team chemistry and forums as well, so I am sorry to you guys for having to go through these accusations, you dont deserve it, and to the people saying it, I hope I explained it enough for you to stop pointing fingers now, because like I have stated, I havent cheated and never will, talk to any of the guys if you want, find the topic deep in trade forums, you will see. So please stop trying to stain my franchise when its not deserving, we are clean and always will be. Dont try to make us the Patriots of BBB 14 when its not deserving, thank you.

Originally posted by Alcapown
They are a group of guys from bacbbreaker forums, they like play alot of mmos together, mamba was running the team, and decided he didnt have the time to invest to be an owner, so on the trade forums he announced he and his guys wanted to find a new team together, there were more but I didnt get all of them, because I had alot of positions filled depth wise. So I was the team they chose due to having to talk to mamba and him liking me as an owner and my program. So he and his guys came over, and I feel like a million bucks, because they are awesome, they bring a lot of life not just to the field but to the team chemistry and forums as well, so I am sorry to you guys for having to go through these accusations, you dont deserve it, and to the people saying it, I hope I explained it enough for you to stop pointing fingers now, because like I have stated, I havent cheated and never will, talk to any of the guys if you want, find the topic deep in trade forums, you will see. So please stop trying to stain my franchise when its not deserving, we are clean and always will be. Dont try to make us the Patriots of BBB 14 when its not deserving, thank you.

you gotta be the best to be the patriots!!!

Debatable. Correct me if I am wrong, but to be the best is to be the champion, and the Super Bowl champion was not New England..

Edit: Im not saying the Giants are the best, Im just saying for that season I guess they were.

ps Go Colts!

Lol

Well whatever, I'd say several teams in this league should be in AAA or the Pros even, but thats obviously owners/players decisions. We certainly have one of the most competitive leagues out there.

You're lucky to have found them Alca...at least you didn't cheat like Richmond and the Scoregasms. Wish we had our loss back from Richmond, I've always thought that was pretty unfair to the teams who lost to them.

Glad to hear it sting, thanks for actually being reasonable and not just stamping me a cheater without listening first. I agree 100%, I would have to say we are apart of one of the most competitive leagues in GLB, its incredible, and we all love it! Its gonna be one hell of a playoffs this season, and probably seasons to come, goodluck to your Vipers! And to you other guys too.

Well I got to say, that was a damned reasonable response. Not defensive in the least and that goes a long way.

i still havent heard a valid argument that explains how all those players switched from a higher league to a lower league

on one hand, its very unfair to jump to a conclusion

on the other hand, how can an outside observer NOT smell something fishy with the explanations youve given

based on what i heard, you gave some kind of magic obama speech and the flock came running. is there more to it than that? did you have ten million dollars in money to spare and shoveled all of it over for these players? if not what did that team get in return?

and although your description sound sincere, ive been reading the boards voraciously and the authentic cheaters always claim their innocence. so i really apologize for this but im gonna need more than your impassioned self defense

i dont wanna feel suspicious. but as a reasonable, fair minded, and pretty sharp person, i dont currently see how i can help it

please help me out

terrific game from the mustangs. i watch all the games play by play now and you really had me worried

i would just love to look over your gameplan. either it was pretty fortuitous random number generation swings or you put together some masterful game plan

forgive me for posturing but your DBs did not scare us. and yet you almost held us in check the whole game. if not for two perfect passes to our lower depth chart speedsters you would have held us to around 100 yds passing. i dont even see how that would be possible with the defensive tactics settings but you did it

fortunately we were able to hold your primary HB to 3.2 yds per carry and get some key 3rd down stops and conversions when we needed them. it was a chair clutcher to be sure

nice job

and btw you were the only team to contain TE Bull. heck you did that and contained our WR 15, 14, & 12. thank god for our WR 11 & 9 who are fast as hell and could run a couple of plays away from your CBs cuz that really was an impressive defensive effort

Ok, Mamba said he didnt have the required amount of time to run a successful team, so hes abandoned it more or less. And he posted in the trade forums that he and alot of his guys are looking for a team that would take and start them, or most of them because they did not want to be separated. They are all from the same forums, backbreaker, its like a 3d football mmo in the works with a similar graphics engine to madden i think, I dont know much about it. Anyways, and I sent him a PM, told him what I expect from my players, what he can expect from me, and that I would start most of his guys, etc. He said that I was the only owner that didnt kiss his ass in the PM wanting him to play for them, so he had me introduce myself on their forums, I got a positive response from them, and a lot of them decided to come to Chattanooga Quarantine. Mamba said he had over 400 PMs a day even after they signed for me wanting them to join so and so team. I guess you could call me lucky for landing such a deal, but a cheater you can not call me.

One of the reasons for Mamba not wanting to own a team was the league they were in too, they were loosing ball games, and he saw the league Im in and new they could expect to really perform and actually get some Ws and be competitive. And that team got nothing in return, like I said earlier, its a lost cause that he is getting rid of because he doesnt want to be a team owner.

ok fine, good explanation. you didnt intend to cheat and by some definitions maybe it wasnt cheating

but even by your own description two posts ago that sounds an awful lot like gutting

not gutting by someone who intends to make his buddies team the champs, but gutting by a guy who just doesnt care anymore

all good intentions aside, gutting is gutting. you benefitting by someone who lost interest gutting their team

im sorry, yeah you got lucky, yeah you didnt mean any harm, yeah you didnt technically cheat. but i dont think any reasonable person could say that is the kind of thing you do in the spirit of the game

bottom line: you got a windfall of powerful players by giving up virtually nothing. does that sound right to you?

let me give you an example to illustrate my point

somebody contacted me via pm who saw a comment i made on the boards and asked me for advice on energy settings. he was in some third world league completely unrelated to us to i gave him a bunch of advice. apparently it was extremely valuable to him and he offered to trade me a player he didnt need anymore that had gone inactive but had given him his login id

i posted a message asking if it was ethical to use a player in that situation. all responses seemed to say it was ok

and yet the more i thought about it the more i didnt like it. it just didnt seem right for me to be taking someones player that the owner didnt want to bother with anymore. technically in the rules maybe, but not in the spirit of the game

not a one to one comparision with your situation but it does feel like the same general kind of dynamic. they dont put these leagues up so people can get a windfall of players from disinterested owners, or login for a player whos owner doesnt care anymore

they put these leagues up for honest competition by people who get enjoyment out of seeing if they can put a superior team together in a sportsmanlike fashion

let me ask you, does your situation meet that criteria?