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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Originally posted by Jed

Hell, just knocking off a team or 2 who are thought to be better than yours will bring some bragging rights.


Yeah but my team said that EE Pro comes first, I asked if they wanted to boost to attempt to make it a game with Kalamazoo if we win in Round 1 and they without even 1 person saying otherwise, said no. They want our league first. So even if we win round 1, which is also not a given, then we have to play the USA Pro champ Rd 2 .. cool



Likely they felt they were going to lose whether they boosted or not, so might as well not hurt their chances in the league. That makes sense.
 
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Originally posted by dkgojackets
Im not saying thats all his fault, but just that from what Ive gathered its the majority public view. Having the tournament actually run through the game instead of just teams scheduling friendlies whenever just makes it seem more legit.



I've spoke to the 100 top owners in the game via PM on the subject. I think I know a little more than you do about what they think.

No team needs to prove themselves in this tournament more than the Trout. The Brown Trout, Cobra Kai, and Galaxy Aces all want to go around and talk about themselves as top 10 teams, but none of them have proved they belong in the top 10 imo. Of course all 3 pulled out/didn't try in the tournament that could prove it!!

I guess it is much easier to convince yourself that you are top 10 when you don't have to face the reality of a boxscore that shows otherwise.....you really should just pull out completely like the other 2 coward teams who were afraid to face a loss.
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Hey, come on now, Brown Trout does have a fairly legitimate complaint about last year. They looked real good in CPL until something really bad happened.

And, their first round opponent, GSA, sucks. Trout has a real chance to at least advance to the next round.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
The problem with doing this in the offseason though is that teams may be incomplete while looking for free agents. I suppose you could do it during the postseason, but no one is going to want to pay attention to the scrimmage tourney while real playoff games are going on.


Agreed. I considered all options and the best one was to have the championship game as close to the end of the regular season as possible. That way at least the championship game would be fully boosted. And the teams that wanted to win more could boost earlier. So you would at least have teams that want to win in the later rounds.
 
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Where did we say we were a top ten team outside of a (obviously) sarcastic "trout #1 imo"

I dont see how you can say most teams are taking this as seriously as their league. Im not saying people are intentionally doing really stupid stuff to lose on purpose, but youre kidding yourself if you think teams feel one of these games is as important and worth as much preparation time as a league game. I know that you put a lot of time into this and did the best with what you had to work with, but until a tournament like this has a more formal selection process and structure it will just be more of the same.
 
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Originally posted by drazz00
Hey, come on now, Brown Trout does have a fairly legitimate complaint about last year. They looked real good in CPL until something really bad happened.

And, their first round opponent, GSA, sucks. Trout has a real chance to at least advance to the next round.


They have a legit complaint, but it wasn't like they would have even won for sure without the energy changes. All we know is that the starters played longer than normal and that the back-up QB got 20 plays more than normal??

Does that mean they would have won for sure in a game that looked about EVEN when you took those factors out? And remember, this was a 1st round game and not the championship. Then that team they looked EVEN against (Bastards) lost to CCC who lost to Dryden who lost to the Hobos:

Trout = Bastards < Cartel < Dryden < Hobos

So how does that make the Trout a top 10 team??

The Hobos are the ones who have the right to possibly claim being a top 10 team... certainly not the Bastards or Trout.

The Trout were just robbed of a chance to prove it.

They think they level and the fact that they are obviously smarter than everyone should be enough evidence enough that their team is superior. I ain't buyin it yet. Need to show it on the field imo.

(and no, I never claimed that my team was top 10 or even top 30).


The Trout have an excuse for EVERY GAME they have played since I joined CPL: 16 games in the regular season their excuse was that they weren't boosted. The 1 playoff game their excuse was that the substitution pattern was changed.

Stop talking about it and prove it on the field. This year. Not season 1 or season 2 or what could have been in season 3.

No one has more to prove than the Trout because of how their season ended.

 
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Originally posted by dkgojackets
Where did we say we were a top ten team outside of a (obviously) sarcastic "trout #1 imo"

I dont see how you can say most teams are taking this as seriously as their league. Im not saying people are intentionally doing really stupid stuff to lose on purpose, but youre kidding yourself if you think teams feel one of these games is as important and worth as much preparation time as a league game. I know that you put a lot of time into this and did the best with what you had to work with, but until a tournament like this has a more formal selection process and structure it will just be more of the same.


The 3 teams that bitched about their ranking the most:

1.) Trout - even when ranked in the top 25, you and Vanilla Ice were saying HIGHER!
2.) Cobra Kai
3.) Mainboard Pimps

I didn't hear a *peep* out of 50+ of the 64 teams.....

 
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everyone was just saying that the ranking system as a whole was stupid since it automatically put you behind a team that beat you in the playoffs. For us it was retarded since our game was clearly not on an even field, but one game is not the be all end all to determine who should be ranked higher for any team.
 
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The 9 seed is victorious.

Thank you.

Come again.
 
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Originally posted by SteelersInsider
Originally posted by drazz00

Hey, come on now, Brown Trout does have a fairly legitimate complaint about last year. They looked real good in CPL until something really bad happened.

And, their first round opponent, GSA, sucks. Trout has a real chance to at least advance to the next round.


They have a legit complaint, but it wasn't like they would have even won for sure without the energy changes. All we know is that the starters played longer than normal and that the back-up QB got 20 plays more than normal??

Does that mean they would have won for sure in a game that looked about EVEN when you took those factors out? And remember, this was a 1st round game and not the championship. Then that team they looked EVEN against (Bastards) lost to CCC who lost to Dryden who lost to the Hobos:

Trout = Bastards < Cartel < Dryden < Hobos

So how does that make the Trout a top 10 team??

The Hobos are the ones who have the right to possibly claim being a top 10 team... certainly not the Bastards or Trout.

The Trout were just robbed of a chance to prove it.

They think they level and the fact that they are obviously smarter than everyone should be enough evidence enough that their team is superior. I ain't buyin it yet. Need to show it on the field imo.

(and no, I never claimed that my team was top 10 or even top 30).


The Trout have an excuse for EVERY GAME they have played since I joined CPL: 16 games in the regular season their excuse was that they weren't boosted. The 1 playoff game their excuse was that the substitution pattern was changed.

Stop talking about it and prove it on the field. This year. Not season 1 or season 2 or what could have been in season 3.

No one has more to prove than the Trout because of how their season ended.



what the fuck are you talking about? I know that the cpl forums can lead to someone losing their entire sense of reason, but I used to think you were a bit smarter than that
 
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Originally posted by dkgojackets
everyone was just saying that the ranking system as a whole was stupid since it automatically put you behind a team that beat you in the playoffs. For us it was retarded since our game was clearly not on an even field, but one game is not the be all end all to determine who should be ranked higher for any team.



You were complaining *before* I moved you behind the Bastards. Don't make me find the posts, because I still have the threads, but they are like a zillion pages long....

 
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dkgojackets-

Let's just drop it. We aren't going to solve how good the Trout are by discussing it.

I like you and like your team. I just think you overestimate your team sometimes. I'm sure I'm guilty of that also.
 
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Helsinki.
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Non-whiners teams not Helsinki.
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Whiner teams.


That is the hierarchy.
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Brown Trout are victorious as expected (24-13)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=125027


4 more games to be played later today.
 
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cpl > usa pro obv

except in tackling
 
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