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Originally posted by jmsne
You know what maybe if you hadn't put him in that situation, he wouldn't feel the need to vent his frustrations. Some of us worked fairly hard to be competitive in this league, we recruited and spent hours getting 1 guy to sign after sending out 50 or more offers.

Then this group of ass hats who couldn't get it done at a higher league moves en masse to our league and instantly becomes the favorites to win it all. I would say the guy has every right to voice his opinions at what you guys did, accept the fact you screwed over a lot of people that worked hard on their team listen or don't to them venting and shut the hell up!!


No one can argue this. jmsne has earned his right to talk whatever trash he wants, without rebuttle.
There was a thread recently that said BBB15 forum activity was dropping off, and I just figured out why. Monoxide killed the best league that was. The recent increase in activity is a release of frustration and anxiety from the victims in this league. I pity Lima and Rapid City who miss out on a much deserved promotion, but this league will be a much happier place once the Vikings are gone.
 
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Originally posted by jmsne

You know what maybe if you hadn't put him in that situation, he wouldn't feel the need to vent his frustrations. Some of us worked fairly hard to be competitive in this league, we recruited and spent hours getting 1 guy to sign after sending out 50 or more offers.

Then this group of ass hats who couldn't get it done at a higher league moves en masse to our league and instantly becomes the favorites to win it all. I would say the guy has every right to voice his opinions at what you guys did, accept the fact you screwed over a lot of people that worked hard on their team listen or don't to them venting and shut the hell up!!


No one can argue this. jmsne has earned his right to talk whatever trash he wants, without rebuttle.
There was a thread recently that said BBB15 forum activity was dropping off, and I just figured out why. Monoxide killed the best league that was. The recent increase in activity is a release of frustration and anxiety from the victims in this league. I pity Lima and Rapid City who miss out on a much deserved promotion, but this league will be a much happier place once the Vikings are gone.


I wouldn't count anyone else in the West out yet. Caprica was totally overmatched against these guys on paper, and had the game until the last 30 seconds because of superior coaching.

I don't think these Death Valley guys are that good at managing finances or coordinating a game plan. And considering that they didn't think ahead and boost earlier, Death Valley will be away both of their next two games.

Honestly, I think Rapid City will beat them. I'd rather Death Valley win (I think Rapid City is a more difficult opponent and it's the only way we get another home game), but I think Rapid City will knock them out.

 
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Originally posted by byrongame21
Ok, I feel that I need to address something after reading all of this. I personally copied and pasted Bort's reply to my PM to him at the beginning of the season, when the morning that this entire thread was started I sent him a PM and asked to switch leagues. With the help of many of the people who posted in the beginning of this thread (you guys knew a lot more admins than I ever did), I contacted another admin about the situation, since Bort was slow in responding to my initial inquiry. I even showed him some of the teams that many individuals suggest that we switch leagues with. Believe it or not, Craft and Mono followed suit shortly after. What happened was wrong, I already have had dozens and dozens of PMs with Gwenn about this topic, and actually personally addressed k2 about it earlier in this season (atleast I think it was you k2, I didn't actually look back and check it out, so if it wasn't you then that's my bad). There were most definitely some individuals who did what they could to try and correct the mistake. Nobody is questioning whether the decision was right or wrong, because although the current rules of the game "allowed" it to a certain extent, it was still the wrong way to go about it. The decision was made without much thought about it, without thinking about who we were affecting, simply thinking about ourselves and staying together (for those who have actually followed this thread from the beginning of the season, I apologize for repeating myself...again). Bad decision, tried to fix it, didn't work out, we were stuck with our decision/mistake. This league is 10x closer than any other league I have yet to be a part of in this game, and I personally apologize for what I, as a member of this team, have helped put everyone through this season. Everyone knows how pissed off everyone is about these circumstances, but lets stop wasting our time attacking one another, and focus on being successful in the playoffs (ok asshole, easy for you to say, you're on a stacked team that cheated, waited to boost, and now is gonna roll until they face NBSC). I doubt that, let's see how these next few games unfold and you will see what I mean. Do not think that we will not do our best to win our games, but I feel as if eveyrone will be surprised with the results of the playoffs out West.


You're a good diplomat Byron and one that I do not mean to target in any rant I make.... It's a problem when they take money from competitive people for this game, profess that they are trying to keep it on the level, specifically say that migrating high-level players to a lower division is something they frown upon and are trying to stop, and then allow it....

I don't expect too many on your squad to like me or to see me as anything but a "whiner" but the whole situation was kind of a slap in the face to some pretty good paying customers. Had we pulled the same thread shennanigans like the Africa League did over the Alexandria Assassins we could have gotten our way, but THAT is something we all chose not to do and instead chose to be mature about it.

I've blown hot and cold in my reactions toward ya'll but in the end was really torqued about the wise-assed thread bumping and how things, as they progressed, seemed to be taking shape more and more like we all knew it would.

Anyway, nothing will ever be done about what occurred and at least you understand that we don't have to be happy about it and afford us that right and acknowledge that we have a right to be angry.

Sad as it may seem, it is some consolation. (That said, I hope we beat the tar out of ya'll... ).

Anyway, in the absence of any further calling-out, this will be my last post in this thread.
 
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Time for the Rushmores to stop whining and start watching film.
 
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I havn't said much about this situation until now. I really believe that the Jakarta Vikings didn't realized what their actions would cause. I believe they would not have done it if they had thought about the outcome. They did however gut a team and move it to a lower league which is in all effect, collusion. It sux for everyone else who has played the way they should have. I don't think they will beat Rapid city and make it to the championship. Although with the level of their players they should. And that means they are going to be right back here next season, I get a sick feeling when I think about playing with them again next season.
 
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Originally posted by dpell
Time for the Rushmores to stop whining and start watching film.


Agreed
 
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Originally posted by rogerdyates
I havn't said much about this situation until now. I really believe that the Jakarta Vikings didn't realized what their actions would cause. I believe they would not have done it if they had thought about the outcome. They did however gut a team and move it to a lower league which is in all effect, collusion.


totally disagree! It takes about .00005 milliseconds to realize what the hell they were planning to do and the entire team was on board. Unfortunately, no one had the strength on that team to stand up and say no to what was going on.
 
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Originally posted by Monoxide97
Originally posted by dpell

Time for the Rushmores to stop whining and start watching film.


Agreed


is there a way to ban theives and cheaters?
 
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The Hawk
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Originally posted by rogerdyates
I havn't said much about this situation until now. I really believe that the Jakarta Vikings didn't realized what their actions would cause. I believe they would not have done it if they had thought about the outcome. They did however gut a team and move it to a lower league which is in all effect, collusion. It sux for everyone else who has played the way they should have. I don't think they will beat Rapid city and make it to the championship. Although with the level of their players they should. And that means they are going to be right back here next season, I get a sick feeling when I think about playing with them again next season.


They knew what the fuck they were doing. They lied and got their way. Not a thing we can do about it. I envision the admins will lose quite a few paying customers from this gaffe.
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Damnit, I wanted the 400th post...
 
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maybe u can get 500
 
Monoxide97
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Thanks to all these posts I know I have effected many peoples lives in so many ways. I am touched to see all this hate lol. I would rather be hated this much then loved hah. I bet I even have threads on your guys private boards that I am missing out on. I honestly get all warm and fuzzy reading all this talk. I also accept private messages( as some of you have sent). So if you feel the need to hate please PM me. I accept all kinds of hate mail and greet it with open arms.
Love,
Mono
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MIKECRAFT
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thats so sweet, when i purchased the devils i never would have dreamed there would be a thread with over 400 posts about my team. ( does anyone know what the record is for the biggest thread is )
 
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Originally posted by MIKECRAFT
thats so sweet, when i purchased the devils i never would have dreamed there would be a thread with over 400 posts about my team. ( does anyone know what the record is for the biggest thread is )


its considerably longer than this thread about you and your cheating team...but I bet you are a runaway for another award
 
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