Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by PDO
Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by tjsexy82
Originally posted by Ken1
There was a ton wrong with a line interaction that turned into a footrace. The changes that will be made will still not allow it to be a footrace, but instead give someone with the tools to shed a block a much better chance not to be immediately re-engaged (which is why block shedding hasn't worked well enough).
You always maintained people were saying that, but I don't remember hearing ANYONE who said speed should be the highest stat and I told you so back then. Everyone was saying that a pass-blocking OT should have agility and blocking as highest. You didn't get that then and apparently you don't get it now. Nobody said speed was most important. But at the same time, Bench Press isn't the main thing teams look at when drafting franchise LTs.
So is that why I see all the 200-240 pound OT's in the NFL? Oops, I don't. I see guys running 5.5 combine times considered top OT prospects (and yes, I did look that up)?
Actually, they were saying Agility should be their highest and the most extreme people said Speed the second highest. Not all the DE defenders, or not directly, but....
Basically, the argument was that 100 Speed DE's were stoppable-- just get 80 yourself, or the like. But that wasn't an acceptable solution, because linemen in real life are strong before fast.
Ken1:
It is true that some people were saying that OTs should get high speed in order to compete...however, that was not an effective strategy.
What you needed to stop those crazy fast/agile DEs was blocking and agility, in that order. Which sort of makes sense for an OT does it not? Great blocking technique and quick feet to stop high speed agility rushers?
Speed didn't need to be very high at all, it was 6th most important attribute for an ROT.
A good OT looked very much like you would imagine a good OT. Tons of blocking with excellent Strength and Agility, vision, confidence and speed rounding out the build, as SAs to taste.
An OT that looked like that in Season 6 was extremely effective.
But most OTs did not look like that.
Most OT's looked like this:
120 strength, 100 blocking. PANCAKE MACHINE WHOO!!!
Nothing else.
They're fat, they don't need speed and agility LOL.
For utterly ridiculous reasons, Bort decided that that should be fine... and made the changes. And then to make it even worse, most of them figured out that instead of spending in the 5 cap, they could 2 cap agility and never be beaten.
Actually, in season 6 most OTs were closer to 100-110 strength, 70 blocking, 48 agility.
And they (predictably) got owned.
I agree. And it sucked because they were loud and got DEs nerfed. However, my 95 blocking, 70 strength, 65 agility, 48 speed LT gave up 1 sack that season and played a tough schedule.
Originally posted by PDO
Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by tjsexy82
Originally posted by Ken1
There was a ton wrong with a line interaction that turned into a footrace. The changes that will be made will still not allow it to be a footrace, but instead give someone with the tools to shed a block a much better chance not to be immediately re-engaged (which is why block shedding hasn't worked well enough).
You always maintained people were saying that, but I don't remember hearing ANYONE who said speed should be the highest stat and I told you so back then. Everyone was saying that a pass-blocking OT should have agility and blocking as highest. You didn't get that then and apparently you don't get it now. Nobody said speed was most important. But at the same time, Bench Press isn't the main thing teams look at when drafting franchise LTs.
So is that why I see all the 200-240 pound OT's in the NFL? Oops, I don't. I see guys running 5.5 combine times considered top OT prospects (and yes, I did look that up)?
Actually, they were saying Agility should be their highest and the most extreme people said Speed the second highest. Not all the DE defenders, or not directly, but....
Basically, the argument was that 100 Speed DE's were stoppable-- just get 80 yourself, or the like. But that wasn't an acceptable solution, because linemen in real life are strong before fast.
Ken1:
It is true that some people were saying that OTs should get high speed in order to compete...however, that was not an effective strategy.
What you needed to stop those crazy fast/agile DEs was blocking and agility, in that order. Which sort of makes sense for an OT does it not? Great blocking technique and quick feet to stop high speed agility rushers?
Speed didn't need to be very high at all, it was 6th most important attribute for an ROT.
A good OT looked very much like you would imagine a good OT. Tons of blocking with excellent Strength and Agility, vision, confidence and speed rounding out the build, as SAs to taste.
An OT that looked like that in Season 6 was extremely effective.
But most OTs did not look like that.
Most OT's looked like this:
120 strength, 100 blocking. PANCAKE MACHINE WHOO!!!
Nothing else.
They're fat, they don't need speed and agility LOL.
For utterly ridiculous reasons, Bort decided that that should be fine... and made the changes. And then to make it even worse, most of them figured out that instead of spending in the 5 cap, they could 2 cap agility and never be beaten.
Actually, in season 6 most OTs were closer to 100-110 strength, 70 blocking, 48 agility.
And they (predictably) got owned.
I agree. And it sucked because they were loud and got DEs nerfed. However, my 95 blocking, 70 strength, 65 agility, 48 speed LT gave up 1 sack that season and played a tough schedule.
