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atm490
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Originally posted by joemalaka
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Originally posted by billyvassi




And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.


And with that... there can officially, be no collusion. If the two colluding parties were purportedly Billy and Cats, and Billy says that he specifically did NOT collude with Cats, Cats cannot have colluded.

Cats is innocent, justice is served. Everyone can go home now.


And I can say that the my friend didn't do XYZ. Does that instantly make him innocent?


If the crime specifically requires that you and your friend have acted together? YES.


Really? So what if others saw what he did or we did? (doesn't completely relate to this, but we were speaking generally).


Really. That's your classic case of someone taking the fall. (Note, this is general, I am NOT saying that Billy is taking the fall for Cats. I don't believe that to be true in the least bit.)

But if, for instance, someone commits a murder, and you are charged as an accomplice to the murder, and the murderer says, "Joe wasn't an accomplice. He wasn't there to help me, and his presence was purely coincidental", than the prosecution likely wouldn't charge you as being an accomplice. Being an accomplice has certain requirements, one of which is that you intended to aid the primary. If the primary says that's not why you were there, than he's taking the fall for you.
 
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Originally posted by Daman
Catspaw is a good dude. he doesnt like the browns but thats not my problem. i know that guy has built this team from dust. joe do u know wat he saw in u? he saw a guy who had a good full back and was a guy who wouldn't try to harm the team in any way. know cats cant trust what he sees anymore because this forum is about to have over 300 posts and its all about hurting this team. u should really think in ur head before u start some thing . everyone on the brisbane bandits is officaily ashamed of what u have done.


After reading 18 pages of this, and several of your posts, I know this will go well over your head, but if Catspaw did not bench Mojo, I seriously doubt any of this would be out here right now. The suspicous thing is the swift, angry, irrational action by Catspaw against his starting FB.

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.

 
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Originally posted by bigpimpin123
Originally posted by badkarma

In case anyone is joining this thread late all this pissing and moaning is over the trade of a level 12 HB for a 4th or 5th string level 12 CB before the trade deadline.

Thank god the mods do a brilliant job of not responding to all the crybabies in this game.







your welcome


LMAO....

psst...it's you're not your
 
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Originally posted by badkarma
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Another try at spin. It was an INACTIVE player traded for a wanted player, and collusion between two GMs to do it.

No need to try to lie badkarma


Bro you are a broken record. I ate lunch, went to the gym and started painting a room and you are still at this.

I enjoy the drama and attention as much as anyone else but if you think sitting on here trying to paint us as cheaters is going to change anything you are fooling yourself.






I'm not painting anyone as anything, people have a funny way of painting themselves..

..I just keep going back and correcting the lies...

You tried to make you team look good by spinning the trade a certain way...it wasn't the whole truth, so I corrected it for you....
 
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Originally posted by billyvassi
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uhh why wouldnt he lie in this situation? i say he colluded, so i must be right...cuz i said it...right?


Why would I? It doesn't protect me and I stand to gain nothing from lying about that.


the team you are on does so yes you do gain from it
 
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Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by billyvassi

And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.


Did Catspaw know he was trading an inactive player for an active player? Did he know you had information other GMs and owners did not on what player(s) were needed and what players he was looking to get rid of? Did you have to negotiate the inactive player (meaning did you try to get an active player instead)?


Repost so BillyVassi cannot say he missed it.
 
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Why would I? It doesn't protect me and I stand to gain nothing from lying about that.


Catspaw and the Bandits stand to lose a lot...
 
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Originally posted by atcchris

After reading 18 pages of this, and several of your posts, I know this will go well over your head, but if Catspaw did not bench Mojo, I seriously doubt any of this would be out here right now. The suspicous thing is the swift, angry, irrational action by Catspaw against his starting FB.

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


If you knew how catspaw ran the team you would see why he did that. He's a very "team" type of guy. I think he runs a football team in real life (not sure about that, I might've heard). He saw the thread by joe calling me out as throwing a teammate under the bus an bringing unrelated gossip to the team forum where it didn't belong. I'm not a GM on the Bandits, I have no control over the team, I am a punt returner. So what I might have done as a GM somewhere else wasn't something to try to get the team forum stirred up about.

 
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Originally posted by atcchris
The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


Is it bullying to ban a disgruntled player from the forums to safeguard our gameplans. I call the smart ownership. I guess we have a difference of opinion.
 
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Originally posted by billyvassi
Originally posted by atcchris


After reading 18 pages of this, and several of your posts, I know this will go well over your head, but if Catspaw did not bench Mojo, I seriously doubt any of this would be out here right now. The suspicous thing is the swift, angry, irrational action by Catspaw against his starting FB.

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


If you knew how catspaw ran the team you would see why he did that. He's a very "team" type of guy. I think he runs a football team in real life (not sure about that, I might've heard). He saw the thread by joe calling me out as throwing a teammate under the bus an bringing unrelated gossip to the team forum where it didn't belong. I'm not a GM on the Bandits, I have no control over the team, I am a punt returner. So what I might have done as a GM somewhere else wasn't something to try to get the team forum stirred up about.



Joe didn't "throw you under the bus" you threw yourself under there, you're fucking guilty.

Also, you keep speaking of this "rumor" and "gossip" yet haven't made one attempt to clear up an rumor or point out what might not be factual...
 
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Originally posted by badkarma
Originally posted by atcchris

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


Is it bullying to ban a disgruntled player from the forums to safeguard our gameplans. I call the smart ownership. I guess we have a difference of opinion.


It's bullying to ban the guy for trying to do the right thing, even though the right thing hurts the team, absolutely.
 
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Originally posted by billyvassi
Originally posted by atcchris


After reading 18 pages of this, and several of your posts, I know this will go well over your head, but if Catspaw did not bench Mojo, I seriously doubt any of this would be out here right now. The suspicous thing is the swift, angry, irrational action by Catspaw against his starting FB.

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


If you knew how catspaw ran the team you would see why he did that. He's a very "team" type of guy. I think he runs a football team in real life (not sure about that, I might've heard). He saw the thread by joe calling me out as throwing a teammate under the bus an bringing unrelated gossip to the team forum where it didn't belong. I'm not a GM on the Bandits, I have no control over the team, I am a punt returner. So what I might have done as a GM somewhere else wasn't something to try to get the team forum stirred up about.



Banning from posting until intent could have been established might have been reasonable. Getting angry and benching a player before hearing him out... not cool. If it was me, I would have rather been released than benched. He was trying to bully, plain and simple. He pushed too hard, in my opinion.
 
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Originally posted by badkarma
Originally posted by atcchris

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


Is it bullying to ban a disgruntled player from the forums to safeguard our gameplans. I call the smart ownership. I guess we have a difference of opinion.


Why was I disgruntled? I wasn't at all. I posted a few links and got banned. i wasn't disgrunted until Cats benched me.
 
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Originally posted by badkarma
Originally posted by atcchris

The one thing I like about this whole thing is that it shows that Bullying doesn't always work. I can tell by your posts, Daman, that you're a bully, so I'm sure you'll be rabid in your answer to me. What Catspaw did was bullying, and I'm glad he's being called on it.


Is it bullying to ban a disgruntled player from the forums to safeguard our gameplans. I call the smart ownership. I guess we have a difference of opinion.


The ban from the forum wasn't the issue. As a player, I am very sensitive to an owner acting like a bully and benching me for some contrived reason. It's very suspicious that he would do that unless Mojo had inadvertently stepped on some very big, sore, toes.
 
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Originally posted by Daman
w00t the 300 post milestone, we finally done it . and its all to hurt the #1 team in oceania.


#1 in the sense that the Patriots were last year.
 
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