Warrior General Games

Originally posted by billyvassi
And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.

Did Catspaw know he was trading an inactive player for an active player? Did he know you had information other GMs and owners did not on what player(s) were needed and what players he was looking to get rid of? Did you have to negotiate the inactive player (meaning did you try to get an active player instead)?

Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by billyvassi

And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.

And with that... there can officially, be no collusion. If the two colluding parties were purportedly Billy and Cats, and Billy says that he specifically did NOT collude with Cats, Cats cannot have colluded.

Cats is innocent, justice is served. Everyone can go home now.

And I can say that the my friend didn't do XYZ. Does that instantly make him innocent?

Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by atm490

Originally posted by billyvassi


And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.

And with that... there can officially, be no collusion. If the two colluding parties were purportedly Billy and Cats, and Billy says that he specifically did NOT collude with Cats, Cats cannot have colluded.

Cats is innocent, justice is served. Everyone can go home now.

And I can say that the my friend didn't do XYZ. Does that instantly make him innocent?

If the crime specifically requires that you and your friend have acted together? YES.

For us to suspend the belief that the one guy who has trading rights on the Bandits had no clue that he was colluding by trading an inactive player for a player he had publicly stated he wanted, and being offered that trade by a member of his team also...is pure fantasy.

You both colluded, having you teammates, and the guy who admitted that he did wrong say the Bandits owner is innocent doesn't make him so.

No justice has been served. There was collusion, and as far as I'm concerned the Bandits are cheaters. Their management has soiled what was otherwise (to this point) a perfect season.

Originally posted by bigpimpin123

If its not true they should have nothing to hide and benching him shows us the exact opposite

Benching him shows that Cats doesn't trust him to set his tactics properly, a threat Cats says that the player made. Once you make that kind of threat, it really is pretty much over.

In case anyone is joining this thread late all this pissing and moaning is over the trade of a level 12 HB for a 4th or 5th string level 12 CB before the trade deadline.

Thank god the mods do a brilliant job of not responding to all the crybabies in this game.

So there.

Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by joemalaka

Originally posted by atm490


Originally posted by billyvassi



And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.

And with that... there can officially, be no collusion. If the two colluding parties were purportedly Billy and Cats, and Billy says that he specifically did NOT collude with Cats, Cats cannot have colluded.

Cats is innocent, justice is served. Everyone can go home now.

And I can say that the my friend didn't do XYZ. Does that instantly make him innocent?

If the crime specifically requires that you and your friend have acted together? YES.

Really? So what if others saw what he did or we did? (doesn't completely relate to this, but we were speaking generally).

Originally posted by badkarma
In case anyone is joining this thread late all this pissing and moaning is over the trade of a level 12 HB for a 4th or 5th string level 12 CB before the trade deadline.

Thank god the mods do a brilliant job of not responding to all the crybabies in this game.



LOL! You left a lot out dude.

Originally posted by badkarma
In case anyone is joining this thread late all this pissing and moaning is over the trade of a level 12 HB for a 4th or 5th string level 12 CB before the trade deadline.

Thank god the mods do a brilliant job of not responding to all the crybabies in this game.







Another try at spin. It was an INACTIVE player traded for a wanted player, and collusion between two GMs to do it.

No need to try to lie badkarma

Originally posted by methomps
Originally posted by bigpimpin123


If its not true they should have nothing to hide and benching him shows us the exact opposite

Benching him shows that Cats doesn't trust him to set his tactics properly, a threat Cats says that the player made. Once you make that kind of threat, it really is pretty much over.

He benched me BEFORE we got into an arguement.

Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by billyvassi

And as far as this apology and admittal you're after, I've already said that I take responsibility for my actions and will accept any punishment admins decide based on both sides of the story from people involved. I was wrong some of the things I did and I would do a lot of things differently.

But as far as catspaw, if you are looking for me to ever say he did anything wrong, you can let go of that fantasy right now. He is absolutely 100% innocent of any collusion and I will take that to my grave.

And with that... there can officially, be no collusion. If the two colluding parties were purportedly Billy and Cats, and Billy says that he specifically did NOT collude with Cats, Cats cannot have colluded.

Cats is innocent, justice is served. Everyone can go home now.

uhh why wouldnt he lie in this situation? i say he colluded, so i must be right...cuz i said it...right?

Originally posted by badkarma
In case anyone is joining this thread late all this pissing and moaning is over the trade of a level 12 HB for a 4th or 5th string level 12 CB before the trade deadline.

Thank god the mods do a brilliant job of not responding to all the crybabies in this game.







your welcome

Originally posted by bigpimpin123

uhh why wouldnt he lie in this situation? i say he colluded, so i must be right...cuz i said it...right?

Why would I? It doesn't protect me and I stand to gain nothing from lying about that.

Originally posted by Ballbright
Another try at spin. It was an INACTIVE player traded for a wanted player, and collusion between two GMs to do it.

No need to try to lie badkarma

Bro you are a broken record. I ate lunch, went to the gym and started painting a room and you are still at this.

I enjoy the drama and attention as much as anyone else but if you think sitting on here trying to paint us as cheaters is going to change anything you are fooling yourself.