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Originally posted by JBrown5390
Originally posted by Buckeyes33

i dont know why people are bitching now. all it is, is that DEs are more realistic. they aren't getting 74 sacks a season. the best are getting maybe 40 now against good teams in a good league.

You would know what you were talking about if you actually had a DE

I would like to see a DE who is getting 40 sacks, and those totals against quality teams. Please.

Originally posted by PDO

Oher ran a 5.32, and was clocked at a 5.08 while at 'Ole Miss.
TE Brandon Pettigrew run a 4.85 and MLB Rey Maualuga run a 4.83; ~0.25 s faster than Oher . That means TE's and MLB's in GLB should only need about 10 points more in speed than OT's at maximum, and OT's do fine with hardly any speed at all. ZOMG, NERF EVERYTHING NOW!

Originally posted by Gus Tarballs
Originally posted by PDO


Oher ran a 5.32, and was clocked at a 5.08 while at 'Ole Miss.
TE Brandon Pettigrew run a 4.85 and MLB Rey Maualuga run a 4.83; ~0.25 s faster than Oher . That means TE's and MLB's in GLB should only need about 10 points more in speed than OT's at maximum, and OT's do fine with hardly any speed at all. ZOMG, NERF EVERYTHING NOW!

This statement is a bit loaded.

Assuming the "ideal" Speed for an OT is about 50.

People just tend to build Receiving TEs like superfast WRs because of the TE1/2 slots. This isn't to say, however, that a TE with 60 Speed couldn't work, especially with some investment in the Route Running SA. They'd just be better for shorter gains. Unfortunately in GLB there is almost no reason to pass for anything less than 10 yds at any time.

As for MLB, 60 Speed could definitely work provided LB pathing was improved. They're looking to stop the run anyways, so they don't have a huge amount of distance to cover provided they can actually make the tackle.

Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
Originally posted by JBrown5390

Originally posted by Buckeyes33


i dont know why people are bitching now. all it is, is that DEs are more realistic. they aren't getting 74 sacks a season. the best are getting maybe 40 now against good teams in a good league.

You would know what you were talking about if you actually had a DE

I would like to see a DE who is getting 40 sacks, and those totals against quality teams. Please.

Agreed. Everyone who says this ends up posting to a DE who got all his sacks against gutted teams. People are just too dumb to actually check their verbal diarrhea for long enough to make sure they know what they're talking about.

Originally posted by tjsexy82
Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt

Originally posted by JBrown5390


Originally posted by Buckeyes33



i dont know why people are bitching now. all it is, is that DEs are more realistic. they aren't getting 74 sacks a season. the best are getting maybe 40 now against good teams in a good league.

You would know what you were talking about if you actually had a DE

I would like to see a DE who is getting 40 sacks, and those totals against quality teams. Please.

Agreed. Everyone who says this ends up posting to a DE who got all his sacks against gutted teams. People are just too dumb to actually check their verbal diarrhea for long enough to make sure they know what they're talking about.

I found it pretty convenient that he couldn't back up his claim.

Ok here is the problem.

GLB has like what? Twice as many plays as your average NFL game? Yet has half as many sacks as a normal NFL game. So two-fold are the DE's being screwed.

Originally posted by Derekross
Ok here is the problem.

GLB has like what? Twice as many plays as your average NFL game? Yet has half as many sacks as a normal NFL game. So two-fold are the DE's being screwed.

Hell I would be happy just to get sacks against gutted teams again. Hell this season I can't even get those 'feel good' sacks.

Screw sacks, I just want a couple tackles. I think I have like 9 on the year, lmao.

Originally posted by Derekross
Screw sacks, I just want a couple tackles. I think I have like 9 on the year, lmao.

Same here.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=600219

He also has a +4 strength, +2 Shed Blocks, and + %12 break block chance. But nothing resulting from it.

Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by tjsexy82

Originally posted by Ken1

There was a ton wrong with a line interaction that turned into a footrace. The changes that will be made will still not allow it to be a footrace, but instead give someone with the tools to shed a block a much better chance not to be immediately re-engaged (which is why block shedding hasn't worked well enough).

You always maintained people were saying that, but I don't remember hearing ANYONE who said speed should be the highest stat and I told you so back then. Everyone was saying that a pass-blocking OT should have agility and blocking as highest. You didn't get that then and apparently you don't get it now. Nobody said speed was most important. But at the same time, Bench Press isn't the main thing teams look at when drafting franchise LTs.

So is that why I see all the 200-240 pound OT's in the NFL? Oops, I don't. I see guys running 5.5 combine times considered top OT prospects (and yes, I did look that up)?

Actually, they were saying Agility should be their highest and the most extreme people said Speed the second highest. Not all the DE defenders, or not directly, but....

Basically, the argument was that 100 Speed DE's were stoppable-- just get 80 yourself, or the like. But that wasn't an acceptable solution, because linemen in real life are strong before fast.

Dude, that's a crock of bull. I know my 60-70 agility OTs could stop speed DEs just fine. And 60-70 for an OT wouldn't be good by NFL standards. Most those OTs are very agile, quick and have great footwork. Also, the 5.5 40 crap is bullshit. Most run in the 5.0-5.2 range. Some are even in the 4.9 range. And I'd call a 5.1 around 60 speed. Which is more than you really needed if you had 60-70 agility.

Originally posted by Maddoc
I could keep going, but the fact is that saying "top OT prospects run a 5.50" is hilariously and demonstrably fallacious.

Ken is a jackass. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Originally posted by PDO



There was NEVER anything wrong with the DE/OT interaction before OT's got boosted for no apparent reason. DE's would rape shitty OT's, and were still able to be shut out be good ones. But Ken1 got really loud and Bort listened to the loudest instead of any amount of logic.


I disagree.

I would say there was never anything wrong with RDE/LOT interaction. There was a problem with LDE/ROT interaction because protect didn't work for ROT. In season 6, an 85 blocking, 75 strength, 75 agility, 55 speed OT did fine while playing LOT if he had 4 or 5 in protect. However, put the same OT at ROT against a really good speed/agility DE and he was cannon fotter.

The fix would have been simple. Make protect work for ROT as well as LOT.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by PDO




There was NEVER anything wrong with the DE/OT interaction before OT's got boosted for no apparent reason. DE's would rape shitty OT's, and were still able to be shut out be good ones. But Ken1 got really loud and Bort listened to the loudest instead of any amount of logic.


I disagree.

I would say there was never anything wrong with RDE/LOT interaction. There was a problem with LDE/ROT interaction because protect didn't work for ROT. In season 6, an 85 blocking, 75 strength, 75 agility, 55 speed OT did fine while playing LOT if he had 4 or 5 in protect. However, put the same OT at ROT against a really good speed/agility DE and he was cannon fotter.

The fix would have been simple. Make protect work for ROT as well as LOT.

What would the DE's counter SA to Protect be? Protect boosts 3 attributes (Speed, Agility and Blocking) on every snap.

DE's have nothing that gives them a 3 attribute bonus.

Originally posted by Firenze
Originally posted by Rage Kinard

Originally posted by PDO





There was NEVER anything wrong with the DE/OT interaction before OT's got boosted for no apparent reason. DE's would rape shitty OT's, and were still able to be shut out be good ones. But Ken1 got really loud and Bort listened to the loudest instead of any amount of logic.


I disagree.

I would say there was never anything wrong with RDE/LOT interaction. There was a problem with LDE/ROT interaction because protect didn't work for ROT. In season 6, an 85 blocking, 75 strength, 75 agility, 55 speed OT did fine while playing LOT if he had 4 or 5 in protect. However, put the same OT at ROT against a really good speed/agility DE and he was cannon fotter.

The fix would have been simple. Make protect work for ROT as well as LOT.

What would the DE's counter SA to Protect be? Protect boosts 3 attributes (Speed, Agility and Blocking) on every snap.

DE's have nothing that gives them a 3 attribute bonus.

Protect is grossly overpowered. It shouldn't be given to both OT's, it should be eliminated completely.

DE's have tunnel vision.... which doesn't even appear to work.

Originally posted by PDO
Originally posted by Firenze

Originally posted by Rage Kinard


Originally posted by PDO






There was NEVER anything wrong with the DE/OT interaction before OT's got boosted for no apparent reason. DE's would rape shitty OT's, and were still able to be shut out be good ones. But Ken1 got really loud and Bort listened to the loudest instead of any amount of logic.


I disagree.

I would say there was never anything wrong with RDE/LOT interaction. There was a problem with LDE/ROT interaction because protect didn't work for ROT. In season 6, an 85 blocking, 75 strength, 75 agility, 55 speed OT did fine while playing LOT if he had 4 or 5 in protect. However, put the same OT at ROT against a really good speed/agility DE and he was cannon fotter.

The fix would have been simple. Make protect work for ROT as well as LOT.

What would the DE's counter SA to Protect be? Protect boosts 3 attributes (Speed, Agility and Blocking) on every snap.

DE's have nothing that gives them a 3 attribute bonus.

Protect is grossly overpowered. It shouldn't be given to both OT's, it should be eliminated completely.

DE's have tunnel vision.... which doesn't even appear to work.

And even that only gives 2 attributes. And the fact that it is only a chance to activate...it doesn't activate on every play.