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Originally posted by rjssob
Has it crossed your mind that maybe the owner with access to the offense and defense may have inadvertently done something here...The conspiracy theories are weak at best from what has been sent my way.


well IF he hasn't looked at the DAI in 3 seasons like he says I would find it tough for him to do so
 
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Originally posted by rjssob

Has it crossed your mind that maybe the owner with access to the offense and defense may have inadvertently done something here...The conspiracy theories are weak at best from what has been sent my way.


well IF he hasn't looked at the DAI in 3 seasons like he says I would find it tough for him to do so


Your first mistake is believing anything he says. Your second mistake was letting KingDan touch the defense on Day 36.
 
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Originally posted by jamz
Your first mistake is believing anything he says. Your second mistake was letting KingDan touch the defense on Day 36.


to the first point, i don't even know why someone would lie about that and pics should have been taken. secondly, it's ok he fixed it for day 38
 
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Originally posted by rjssob
Originally posted by NiborRis

He absolutely should expect that he does not have a good standing amongst a huge percentage of the userbase, by his own choice, and thus should not be able to trust his coordinators very far. You go around harassing everyone you see on the street, you can't really be surprised when someone you think is your buddy decides to kick you in the balls over it. Doesn't mean I think someone should get kicked in the balls, but you can't claim "he had no reason to suspect this." He made enough reasons to suspect EVERYONE, and if he didn't, he's an idiot.

It's not his *fault*, but ultimately, making sure your AI is correct falls on the team owner. Most team owners handle it by getting someone to do it for them - but the responsibility is still the owner's. It's not dpride's fault, but it's his responsibility, and fixing it is his job, not GLBs.

There's a reason there was so much hubbub about the bank bailouts - it wasn't the government's responsibility to keep banks from failing, it was the bank leadership responsibility. And frankly - the "Blaze is too big to fail" argument isn't going to work here.

That said, I of course wouldn't trust my own team's AI to someone who had intentionally screwed over someone else. So if this was intentional, I'd be very interested in knowing who did it - I may not own a team, but I can certainly refuse to sign my dots to teams he coordinates for.


Has it crossed your mind that maybe the owner with access to the offense and defense may have inadvertently done something here...The conspiracy theories are weak at best from what has been sent my way.


agreed

but that would make for a boring thread tbh

I imagine all the agents who wasted money on dots dpride rotted over the years are chuckling at all this though
 
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Originally posted by Ubasstards
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Originally posted by Ubasstards
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LeBrons twin if you ask me...
 
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Can we pause this thread, they are about to announce Miss USA....
 
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Originally posted by NiborRis
The quality of the Blaze team is not, and should not, be relevant. There's really only a few things that matter here.

1) The Blaze lost the CCG and by standard definition did not qualify for promotion to WL.
2) There is some controversy as to why the Blaze AI had errors. It may have been human error, or it may have been intentionally damaged by someone given access to Blaze AI, or it's possible someone hacked the GLB in some way to get illicit access.

The *only* case where promoting Blaze as compensation would make sense to me is if GLB was hacked. Even then, I don't like it. GLB would need to announce the defect, announce that it was closed, and describe the defect so that we can satisfy ourselves that it no longer works. At a minimum.
Having someone on your staff sabotage your AI is Human Error - the owner trusted the wrong guy. It's annoying and I would hope the person at fault was discovered and wouldn't want to be associated with them or their teams myself.

As far as promotions for replacing guts/dropdowns - I would prefer the following policy:
If it's a WL team, allow a team from their conference to stay in their place, if .500 or better.
If it's a promoting Pro team, promote the team they beat in the CCG.
If you run out of teams by those criteria, due to multiple guts or whatever, then 2nd choice should be other WL teams that are .500 or better. Once you run out of those - it's time for Bort to make a call on which Pro teams that lost CCGs should promote. Hopefully we never have that many guts in a single season.
I think the de facto policy is pretty close to that, but not exact, and not formalized. Blaze would be a long way down the list for a bonus promotion under that policy, unless ATKM guts. But that's not really the argument - the argument is "Was Blaze *cheated* out of a WL spot, and if so, how do we fix it?"


Fully and completely agreed!








erm... i mean +1
 
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Originally posted by jamz
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Originally posted by rjssob
LeBrons twin if you ask me...


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Edited by Ubasstards on Jun 19, 2011 21:10:56
 
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