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Maybe they run the QB to keep Tea Baggins fresh.
FTW

Originally posted by Malachorn
Originally posted by Skanker irl

Can we get this thread stickied?

Well, I'll tell you this much:
People that read this thread won't be making running QBs next season.

People, you're welcome.

You are right. They will probably start this season

GLB, you're welcome.

Originally posted by sirallan
Maybe they run the QB to keep Tea Baggins fresh.
FTW

Well, again, I think this ignores ways that are probably better to keep a RB fresh - like running with a different RB.

Mal you are being a real pain in the ass.

In 3 sentences or less tell me exactly what you are trying to succeed by posting in this thread.

Originally posted by sirallan
Originally posted by Domer


BINGO...

And there's your answer to why run a QB when a HB has more YPC Malachom..Look deeper into the situation and you might learn something

Domer
Pretty weak argument in my eyes.
There is a lot things that go into a basketball's effectiveness. Since he/she is judged not only on scoring but also how many shots taken, defense, rebounding ability, etc.
When in comparison the QB and the HB are ONLY response for rushing the ball for as many yards as they can get.
Your only true defense is that it is early in the season so there hasn't been enough trials to come up with a true YPC.

Not at all...

You like Malchom are stuck on stats and raw #'s....

In any game let's say the QB runs 12 times and the HB 22 times. The HB scores more TD.s has a higher YPC and far more yards. The QB however has a few runs throughout the game the sustained drives, against a defense that was vulnerable to the QB runs. Those drive lead to more carries for the HB and more TDs.

In this game there are defensive plays and alignments that can be effective vs a HB running the ball but are not so effective with a QB running the ball for the QB position. This is due to the angles in the play perhaps or the timing involved in the runs. (HB's have to receive a hand off and thus there is a small, yet significant delay. HB's receiver the ball from a different position on the field, setting up different pursuit angles.

If you just run the HB all the time, then you are not taking advantage of a weakness in the defense.

In the above example, because the QB ran the ball and the right times to sustain the drive, the HB was able to do his job more effectively and put up better #'s. Which is better? The answer is neither. They both relied on each other to accomplish the goal.

Domer

Originally posted by sirallan
Mal you are being a real pain in the ass.

In 3 sentences or less tell me exactly what you are trying to succeed by posting in this thread.

I think he wants to show off his new avatar.

Originally posted by Malachorn
Originally posted by sirallan

Maybe they run the QB to keep Tea Baggins fresh.
FTW

Well, again, I think this ignores ways that are probably better to keep a RB fresh - like running with a different RB.

I miss those days when I looked at things with such...simplicity.

Dear Domer,

We know you posted because your name comes up right next to the post, therefore you don't need to put your signature at the bottom.

Thanks!

Originally posted by sirallan
Mal you are being a real pain in the ass.

In 3 sentences or less tell me exactly what you are trying to succeed by posting in this thread.

I mostly just didn't like the idea of everyone being steered in such a wrong direction and figured that far too many would believe that a QB appears to be successful here and this must be a good idea, as I believe that what is being suggested here is exactly what teams shouldn't be thinking about, tbh.

I wonder how much longer this argument can last..

Originally posted by sirallan
Dear Domer,

We know you posted because your name comes up right next to the post, therefore you don't need to put your signature at the bottom.

Thanks!

Dear Sirllan:

Thanks for the tip. I realize that. The signing of my post comes from the old BBS days when there were no sigs, avatars etc... It's the old school in me that I continue to display.

Domer

Still annoying IMO.

Originally posted by Domer

In any game let's say the QB runs 12 times and the HB 22 times. The HB scores more TD.s has a higher YPC and far more yards. The QB however has a few runs throughout the game the sustained drives, against a defense that was vulnerable to the QB runs. Those drive lead to more carries for the HB and more TDs.

In this game there are defensive plays and alignments that can be effective vs a HB running the ball but are not so effective with a QB running the ball for the QB position. This is due to the angles in the play perhaps or the timing involved in the runs. (HB's have to receive a hand off and thus there is a small, yet significant delay. HB's receiver the ball from a different position on the field, setting up different pursuit angles.

If you just run the HB all the time, then you are not taking advantage of a weakness in the defense.

In the above example, because the QB ran the ball and the right times to sustain the drive, the HB was able to do his job more effectively and put up better #'s. Which is better? The answer is neither. They both relied on each other to accomplish the goal.

Domer


Yeah, the sim doesn't work like that, tbh.

You could try to make an argument that the QB has a lower YPC because he is a specialist at short yardage situations - I find that notion laughable, tbh.

So... are you suggesting that the QB is your short yardage specialist?

Originally posted by Malachorn
Originally posted by Domer


In any game let's say the QB runs 12 times and the HB 22 times. The HB scores more TD.s has a higher YPC and far more yards. The QB however has a few runs throughout the game the sustained drives, against a defense that was vulnerable to the QB runs. Those drive lead to more carries for the HB and more TDs.

In this game there are defensive plays and alignments that can be effective vs a HB running the ball but are not so effective with a QB running the ball for the QB position. This is due to the angles in the play perhaps or the timing involved in the runs. (HB's have to receive a hand off and thus there is a small, yet significant delay. HB's receiver the ball from a different position on the field, setting up different pursuit angles.

If you just run the HB all the time, then you are not taking advantage of a weakness in the defense.

In the above example, because the QB ran the ball and the right times to sustain the drive, the HB was able to do his job more effectively and put up better #'s. Which is better? The answer is neither. They both relied on each other to accomplish the goal.

Domer


Yeah, the sim doesn't work like that, tbh.

You could try to make an argument that the QB has a lower YPC because he is a specialist at short yardage situations - I find that notion laughable, tbh.

So... are you suggesting that the QB is your short yardage specialist?



These Aholes just throw shit against the wall and hope it sticks. W/e falls to the floor tea baggins comes by and licks it up.

bbl.

Malanewb, keep the thread bumped

I know I can count on you.