Originally posted by mwoods07
Overall (with everything included) did any of the top 5 do any good?
Nope.
Overall (with everything included) did any of the top 5 do any good?
Nope.
Originally posted by mwoods07
Lol, just read back several pages...the guys a douche that will be his own undoing...not going to rehash it, but me and others have all discussed it itt previously.
He hasn't done anything to make him a "POS." He has some douchey qualities, but he isn't a bad guy.
Lol, just read back several pages...the guys a douche that will be his own undoing...not going to rehash it, but me and others have all discussed it itt previously.
He hasn't done anything to make him a "POS." He has some douchey qualities, but he isn't a bad guy.
Originally posted by TrevJo
If you take away any team's top 4 games (since you didn't include the bowl game either), their strength of schedule is not going to look good, especially a team that didn't have a conference championship game to bolster it.
As far as their games against the top defenses they played, which games are you counting for Klein? Were any of those defenses worth a shit? And how did those top 3 opponents compare in the rankings compared to Alabama, LSU, and Florida?
Fun fact, A&M scored more points against each of LSU, Florida, and Alabama than those defenses allowed on average. Kansas State scored 13 fewer points than Baylor allowed on average. So to say the LSU and Florida games for Manziel were worse than the Baylor game for Klein just dosn't hold water.
I never said that the LSU and Florida games were worse for Maziel than the Baylor game for Klein. My point was that Klein was essentially locked in to win until the Baylor game, and that one game took him out of contention, but the Florida and LSU games didn't do the same for Manziel. The same could be said for this season. Petty and Mariotta were both knocked out of contention due to one bad game. Why didn't the same occur for Manziel last season? Because the award has nothing to do with merit or consistency.
If you take away any team's top 4 games (since you didn't include the bowl game either), their strength of schedule is not going to look good, especially a team that didn't have a conference championship game to bolster it.
As far as their games against the top defenses they played, which games are you counting for Klein? Were any of those defenses worth a shit? And how did those top 3 opponents compare in the rankings compared to Alabama, LSU, and Florida?
Fun fact, A&M scored more points against each of LSU, Florida, and Alabama than those defenses allowed on average. Kansas State scored 13 fewer points than Baylor allowed on average. So to say the LSU and Florida games for Manziel were worse than the Baylor game for Klein just dosn't hold water.
I never said that the LSU and Florida games were worse for Maziel than the Baylor game for Klein. My point was that Klein was essentially locked in to win until the Baylor game, and that one game took him out of contention, but the Florida and LSU games didn't do the same for Manziel. The same could be said for this season. Petty and Mariotta were both knocked out of contention due to one bad game. Why didn't the same occur for Manziel last season? Because the award has nothing to do with merit or consistency.
Originally posted by RayRay99
Please enlighten me as to how Johnny has shown to be a POS.
A racist double-team attack against a black man and then providing a fake ID to the cops seems to put him in the POS category.
Please enlighten me as to how Johnny has shown to be a POS.
A racist double-team attack against a black man and then providing a fake ID to the cops seems to put him in the POS category.
Originally posted by RayRay99
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser
Famous Jameis protect your anus. Bye Bye Heisman.
Johnny Interception did fantastic this weekend against LSU. Is that now 5 interceptions in two games against LSU?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser
Famous Jameis protect your anus. Bye Bye Heisman.
Johnny Interception did fantastic this weekend against LSU. Is that now 5 interceptions in two games against LSU?
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
A racist double-team attack against a black man and then providing a fake ID to the cops seems to put him in the POS category.
He broke up a fight between two people, he wasn't in a "racist double-team attack"
Who cares about having a fake ID?
A racist double-team attack against a black man and then providing a fake ID to the cops seems to put him in the POS category.
He broke up a fight between two people, he wasn't in a "racist double-team attack"
Who cares about having a fake ID?
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Johnny Interception did fantastic this weekend against LSU. Is that now 5 interceptions in two games against LSU?
Luckily all the other contenders sucked as well. Johnny likely screwed his chances against LSU, but if he puts up big numbers against Missou he could get back in it.
Johnny Interception did fantastic this weekend against LSU. Is that now 5 interceptions in two games against LSU?
Luckily all the other contenders sucked as well. Johnny likely screwed his chances against LSU, but if he puts up big numbers against Missou he could get back in it.
Originally posted by RayRay99
He broke up a fight between two people, he wasn't in a "racist double-team attack"
Who cares about having a fake ID?
Attacking a black man who your friend calls a n***** is breaking up a fight? That's some real aggie logic there.
Originally posted by RayRay99
Luckily all the other contenders sucked as well. Johnny likely screwed his chances against LSU, but if he puts up big numbers against Missou he could get back in it.
Winston did well even though it was against a terrible school. Though I still think Mariota should be in first.
He broke up a fight between two people, he wasn't in a "racist double-team attack"
Who cares about having a fake ID?
Attacking a black man who your friend calls a n***** is breaking up a fight? That's some real aggie logic there.
Originally posted by RayRay99
Luckily all the other contenders sucked as well. Johnny likely screwed his chances against LSU, but if he puts up big numbers against Missou he could get back in it.
Winston did well even though it was against a terrible school. Though I still think Mariota should be in first.
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Attacking a black man who your friend calls a n***** is breaking up a fight? That's some real aggie logic there.
The altercation began after a friend of Manziel's pointed at a 47-year-old man and used a racial slur. A witness told police that Manziel stepped between the pair in an attempt to diffuse the situation, but that a fight broke out after the 47-year-old pushed Manziel.
www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/15/manziel-pleaded-guilty-misdemeanor-charges-2012-arrest/2518037/smokin
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Winston did well even though it was against a terrible school. Though I still think Mariota should be in first.
Voters won't risk voting for a rapist/ Mariota got his ass kicked again.
Attacking a black man who your friend calls a n***** is breaking up a fight? That's some real aggie logic there.
The altercation began after a friend of Manziel's pointed at a 47-year-old man and used a racial slur. A witness told police that Manziel stepped between the pair in an attempt to diffuse the situation, but that a fight broke out after the 47-year-old pushed Manziel.
www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/07/15/manziel-pleaded-guilty-misdemeanor-charges-2012-arrest/2518037/smokin
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Winston did well even though it was against a terrible school. Though I still think Mariota should be in first.
Voters won't risk voting for a rapist/ Mariota got his ass kicked again.
All Heisman contenders shit the bed.
Congrats AJ for your lifetime achievement award.
Congrats AJ for your lifetime achievement award.
Originally posted by RayRay99
Voters won't risk voting for a rapist/ Mariota got his ass kicked again.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20130715-report-johnny-manziel-pleads-guilty-to-misdemeanor-other-charges-dismissed.ece
Per that article, Manziel started the fight. And the rest of the article does a really good job of showing what a POS he really is. But why are you defending him? He might play for aggie, but he supports UT and has considered himself a Longhorn his whole life. He also thinks College Station is a shithole (he's right). You're defending a guy who doesn't even like your school.
Voters won't risk voting for a rapist/ Mariota got his ass kicked again.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20130715-report-johnny-manziel-pleads-guilty-to-misdemeanor-other-charges-dismissed.ece
Per that article, Manziel started the fight. And the rest of the article does a really good job of showing what a POS he really is. But why are you defending him? He might play for aggie, but he supports UT and has considered himself a Longhorn his whole life. He also thinks College Station is a shithole (he's right). You're defending a guy who doesn't even like your school.
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Originally posted by RayRay99
Luckily all the other contenders sucked as well. Johnny likely screwed his chances against LSU, but if he puts up big numbers against Missou he could get back in it.
Wait...Winston didn't suck at all...the only negative for him was the allegations that popped up. Unless the guy is charged AND found guilty you can't hang that on him. Yes, he will not be allowed to play (rightfully) if he is charged, but that still doesn't mean he is guilty. As for his play on the field, he has yet to have a poor game.
Luckily all the other contenders sucked as well. Johnny likely screwed his chances against LSU, but if he puts up big numbers against Missou he could get back in it.
Wait...Winston didn't suck at all...the only negative for him was the allegations that popped up. Unless the guy is charged AND found guilty you can't hang that on him. Yes, he will not be allowed to play (rightfully) if he is charged, but that still doesn't mean he is guilty. As for his play on the field, he has yet to have a poor game.
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Winston did well even though it was against a terrible school. Though I still think Mariota should be in first.
Really? After that awesome performance against Arizona? Maybe I should have watched that game better...
Winston did well even though it was against a terrible school. Though I still think Mariota should be in first.
Really? After that awesome performance against Arizona? Maybe I should have watched that game better...
Originally posted by mwoods07
Wait...Winston didn't suck at all...the only negative for him was the allegations that popped up. Unless the guy is charged AND found guilty you can't hang that on him. Yes, he will not be allowed to play (rightfully) if he is charged, but that still doesn't mean he is guilty. As for his play on the field, he has yet to have a poor game.
It sucks for him if it isn't true, but I don't think the Heisman voters will put their votes out there for him knowing it could be tarnished if he is found guilty.
Wait...Winston didn't suck at all...the only negative for him was the allegations that popped up. Unless the guy is charged AND found guilty you can't hang that on him. Yes, he will not be allowed to play (rightfully) if he is charged, but that still doesn't mean he is guilty. As for his play on the field, he has yet to have a poor game.
It sucks for him if it isn't true, but I don't think the Heisman voters will put their votes out there for him knowing it could be tarnished if he is found guilty.
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20130715-report-johnny-manziel-pleads-guilty-to-misdemeanor-other-charges-dismissed.ece
Per that article, Manziel started the fight. And the rest of the article does a really good job of showing what a POS he really is. But why are you defending him? He might play for aggie, but he supports UT and has considered himself a Longhorn his whole life. He also thinks College Station is a shithole (he's right). You're defending a guy who doesn't even like your school.
Per that article the old guy said Johnny started the fight, as opposed to everyone else who witnessed the incident
He was a Longhorn fan growing up, Mack shit on him, and he came to A&M and loves A&M. Y'all keep telling yourselves otherwise to feel better about it.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college-sports/texas-aggies/20130715-report-johnny-manziel-pleads-guilty-to-misdemeanor-other-charges-dismissed.ece
Per that article, Manziel started the fight. And the rest of the article does a really good job of showing what a POS he really is. But why are you defending him? He might play for aggie, but he supports UT and has considered himself a Longhorn his whole life. He also thinks College Station is a shithole (he's right). You're defending a guy who doesn't even like your school.
Per that article the old guy said Johnny started the fight, as opposed to everyone else who witnessed the incident
He was a Longhorn fan growing up, Mack shit on him, and he came to A&M and loves A&M. Y'all keep telling yourselves otherwise to feel better about it.
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