Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by kurieg

Originally posted by jrry32


To allowing Gart to use the AI for any purpose.

No.

BFM was in the business of playing dotball. Ksychic gave Gart control of the AI for the purpose of playing dotball. Unless he actually knew what Gart was doing, Ksychic is not colluding with Gart.

That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he knew, he agreed to whatever Gart did when he gave him the power to do it. Otherwise the GMs who traded away every player on the team without an owner's approval couldn't do so because a trade can't be made unless both teams accept it.

please see matty's post.

Originally posted by coachviking
Not to be a tool hear, but that is a FREAKING LONG TIME AGO...not a lot of internet running through this puppy

http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/commodore_pet2001_clavier-merdique.jpg

Oh...Well...As far back as when there were only BBS boards available then if we're getting technical...Not birth.

Originally posted by jrry32
Except that is irrelevant Asheme, ksychic agreed to whatever Gart wanted to do with the AI when he gave them access. If I gave you the ability to release players from my team and you traded my entire team, they should not be traded because I did not agree to it and did not hire you for that reason, right(that's your logic)? Except the thing is, they are released because I agreed to any move you made when I gave you the ability to do it so whether or not that was my intention when hiring you is irrelevant because when I gave you those powers, I gave you my agreement to whatever thing you might do.
No. You saying it's irrelevant doesn't make it irrelevant. It's actually incredibly relevant, considering that's what the usage of the term collusion depends on. Like entirely.

It's not about wrong and/or right in terms of dot morality, it's about the literal definition of the word "collusion".

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by kurieg


Originally posted by jrry32



To allowing Gart to use the AI for any purpose.

No.

BFM was in the business of playing dotball. Ksychic gave Gart control of the AI for the purpose of playing dotball. Unless he actually knew what Gart was doing, Ksychic is not colluding with Gart.

That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he knew, he agreed to whatever Gart did when he gave him the power to do it. Otherwise the GMs who traded away every player on the team without an owner's approval couldn't do so because a trade can't be made unless both teams accept it.

please see matty's post.

Please see my post

Originally posted by jrry32
That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he knew, he agreed to whatever Gart did when he gave him the power to do it. Otherwise the GMs who traded away every player on the team without an owner's approval couldn't do so because a trade can't be made unless both teams accept it.

Again, this isn't collusion.

You are not providing examples of collusion. You're providing examples of employees defrauding their companies and the jobs they were hired to do.

Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by MattyP

Originally posted by jrry32


Originally posted by Darth Asheme



Originally posted by jrry32




Fine, reworded.
If Ksychicchchchchchc allowed gart reign over the AI for the explicit purpose of stat-padding for teh lulz, then, yes, that's collusion. Open, shut, put on the pink pantyhose and call Susan on the can phone.

But, since Ksychicchihihihichc gave gart reign over the AI for an entirely different purpose, and gart used it for something else, there is no collusion. Kyshciharmander might be complicit in the act of luzling, but is not guilty of colluding in any way, shape or form (in the shared reality version of life, anyway).


Except that is irrelevant Asheme, ksychic agreed to whatever Gart wanted to do with the AI when he gave them access. If I gave you the ability to release players from my team and you traded my entire team, they should not be traded because I did not agree to it and did not hire you for that reason, right(that's your logic)? Except the thing is, they are released because I agreed to any move you made when I gave you the ability to do it so whether or not that was my intention when hiring you is irrelevant because when I gave you those powers, I gave you my agreement to whatever thing you might do.

You're grasping at straws here.

So let's use your "business analogy".

I hire you to work the cash register. You start stealing cash from the register. So then, according to your logic, I should go to jail for you stealing.

wat?

But did you say "great job stealing from me" in the police report?

So finding something funny after the fact (and come on, 50 TDs to the same WR is pretty funny), turns it into collusion? :o

Originally posted by Jiddy78
Originally posted by coachviking

Not to be a tool hear, but that is a FREAKING LONG TIME AGO...not a lot of internet running through this puppy

http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/commodore_pet2001_clavier-merdique.jpg

Oh...Well...As far back as when there were only BBS boards available then if we're getting technical...Not birth.

I never get technical...I'm just old

Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by Gart888

Originally posted by jrry32


Originally posted by kurieg



Originally posted by jrry32




To allowing Gart to use the AI for any purpose.

No.

BFM was in the business of playing dotball. Ksychic gave Gart control of the AI for the purpose of playing dotball. Unless he actually knew what Gart was doing, Ksychic is not colluding with Gart.

That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he knew, he agreed to whatever Gart did when he gave him the power to do it. Otherwise the GMs who traded away every player on the team without an owner's approval couldn't do so because a trade can't be made unless both teams accept it.

please see matty's post.

Please see my post

please see my post

Originally posted by kurieg
Originally posted by jrry32

That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if he knew, he agreed to whatever Gart did when he gave him the power to do it. Otherwise the GMs who traded away every player on the team without an owner's approval couldn't do so because a trade can't be made unless both teams accept it.

Again, this isn't collusion.

You are not providing examples of collusion. You're providing examples of employees defrauding their companies and the jobs they were hired to do.

Counterpoint: MattyP

never seen so much debate on a word in my life and I went to grad school for creative writing.

(Asheme is right though, this isn't collusion, it might be other things but it's not collusion)

I think the wise choice, would be for you all to just call it cheating. Pretty hard to refute that one.

Originally posted by thehazyone
I went to grad school for creative writing.


Uh oh.

Originally posted by jamz
I think the wise choice, would be for you all to just call it cheating. Pretty hard to refute that one.
Please. For the sake of my poor heart.

Originally posted by thehazyone
never seen so much debate on a word in my life and I went to grad school for creative writing.

(Asheme is right though, this isn't collusion, it might be other things but it's not collusion)

Funny that the people that have degrees in variations of the English language are agreeing on the definition of the word.