so you want catspaw to come out and say what? what does he have to do to make this argument end?
Forum > Pacific Pro League > Oceania Conference > Brisbane Bandits caught up in controversy? Season tarnished? Possible collusion?
PS3
offline
offline
Originally posted by billyvassi
Wow you're a regular Nancy Drew.
It couldn't be that the people didn't reply to you because they support me and PMed me to tell me about you.
Nooo, it has to be something faaaaaaar more.... convoluted.
lol if those 2 people supported you, why didn't you trade them and get them off the "inactive owner's team"?
Wow you're a regular Nancy Drew.
It couldn't be that the people didn't reply to you because they support me and PMed me to tell me about you.
Nooo, it has to be something faaaaaaar more.... convoluted.
lol if those 2 people supported you, why didn't you trade them and get them off the "inactive owner's team"?
Ballbright
offline
offline
I'm just aghast at the amount of people who are willing to overlook, or try to justify, what obviously violates the rules because it benefits their team.
Catspaw knew. To maintain otherwise is pure bullshit.
You know how many times I've gotten an offer from a GM who just happened to want an inactive HB and was willing to trade me active players that I needed?
It's roughly the same as the amount of email I get daily from Scarlett Johannasson offering to fly out and bang me...
Catspaw knew. To maintain otherwise is pure bullshit.
You know how many times I've gotten an offer from a GM who just happened to want an inactive HB and was willing to trade me active players that I needed?
It's roughly the same as the amount of email I get daily from Scarlett Johannasson offering to fly out and bang me...
joemalaka
offline
offline
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
it hasnt been disproven either. odds are he knew it was a crappy and suspicious deal. all he had to do was look at the team which isnt hard to believe
While we are arguing about something that happened in Oceania, they're still under Common Law. Under common law, and in America, the very basis of the legal system is that you're innocent until proven guilty...
My job as a prosecutor would be A LOT easier if I could just say, "Well, the defendant hasn't proven that he ISN'T guilty."
Well reasonable doubt would be used, right?
Catspaw posts HB is inactive and wants him gone. Then posts later than the team needs a good backup CB that is active. BillyVassi sees both these posts. BillyVassi offers Catspaw an active CB that would be the needed backup for the inactive HB.
I think reasonably you can see the Catspaw knew that he was dumping an inactive for something needed in return. Since BillyVassi is a player on catspaw team, it is reasonable to assume that Catspaw knew BillyVassi was doing something not "honorable".
Would catspaw trade an active good player for a complete inactive? NO WAY IN HELL!!! But he let a player on his team trade him an active player for a complete inactive, using inside information to get it done. That, in my opinion, shows it was known.
That's not actually how "reasonable doubt" works, but your point is well taken. I admit, and already have admitted, that there is evidence to suggest that Cats might have known. But I don't yet believe that he knew the entire situation, and so personally, I don't think that Cats or the Bandits are guilty here.
But Cats would never do that trade himself. He would never let anyone on his team do that trade. He is smart enough to know what was happening. I honestly do not see how that is not seen.
And PS - I will have to read up on reasonable doubt...LOL
Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
it hasnt been disproven either. odds are he knew it was a crappy and suspicious deal. all he had to do was look at the team which isnt hard to believe
While we are arguing about something that happened in Oceania, they're still under Common Law. Under common law, and in America, the very basis of the legal system is that you're innocent until proven guilty...
My job as a prosecutor would be A LOT easier if I could just say, "Well, the defendant hasn't proven that he ISN'T guilty."
Well reasonable doubt would be used, right?
Catspaw posts HB is inactive and wants him gone. Then posts later than the team needs a good backup CB that is active. BillyVassi sees both these posts. BillyVassi offers Catspaw an active CB that would be the needed backup for the inactive HB.
I think reasonably you can see the Catspaw knew that he was dumping an inactive for something needed in return. Since BillyVassi is a player on catspaw team, it is reasonable to assume that Catspaw knew BillyVassi was doing something not "honorable".
Would catspaw trade an active good player for a complete inactive? NO WAY IN HELL!!! But he let a player on his team trade him an active player for a complete inactive, using inside information to get it done. That, in my opinion, shows it was known.
That's not actually how "reasonable doubt" works, but your point is well taken. I admit, and already have admitted, that there is evidence to suggest that Cats might have known. But I don't yet believe that he knew the entire situation, and so personally, I don't think that Cats or the Bandits are guilty here.
But Cats would never do that trade himself. He would never let anyone on his team do that trade. He is smart enough to know what was happening. I honestly do not see how that is not seen.
And PS - I will have to read up on reasonable doubt...LOL
atm490
offline
offline
Here's a new(ish) question...
If Admins reversed the trade(s) between the Bandits and the Thrashers, would everyone still brand the Bandits cheaters?
If Admins reversed the trade(s) between the Bandits and the Thrashers, would everyone still brand the Bandits cheaters?
bigpimpin123
offline
offline
Originally posted by Daman
Catspaw is a good dude. he doesnt like the browns but thats not my problem. i know that guy has built this team from dust. joe do u know wat he saw in u? he saw a guy who had a good full back and was a guy who wouldn't try to harm the team in any way. know cats cant trust what he sees anymore because this forum is about to have over 300 posts and its all about hurting this team. u should really think in ur head before u start some thing . everyone on the brisbane bandits is officaily ashamed of what u have done.
everyone not on the bandits is thankful he posted this information
Catspaw is a good dude. he doesnt like the browns but thats not my problem. i know that guy has built this team from dust. joe do u know wat he saw in u? he saw a guy who had a good full back and was a guy who wouldn't try to harm the team in any way. know cats cant trust what he sees anymore because this forum is about to have over 300 posts and its all about hurting this team. u should really think in ur head before u start some thing . everyone on the brisbane bandits is officaily ashamed of what u have done.
everyone not on the bandits is thankful he posted this information
Last edited May 22, 2008 15:43:45
bigpimpin123
offline
offline
Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
it hasnt been disproven either. odds are he knew it was a crappy and suspicious deal. all he had to do was look at the team which isnt hard to believe
While we are arguing about something that happened in Oceania, they're still under Common Law. Under common law, and in America, the very basis of the legal system is that you're innocent until proven guilty...
My job as a prosecutor would be A LOT easier if I could just say, "Well, the defendant hasn't proven that he ISN'T guilty."
Well reasonable doubt would be used, right?
Catspaw posts HB is inactive and wants him gone. Then posts later than the team needs a good backup CB that is active. BillyVassi sees both these posts. BillyVassi offers Catspaw an active CB that would be the needed backup for the inactive HB.
I think reasonably you can see the Catspaw knew that he was dumping an inactive for something needed in return. Since BillyVassi is a player on catspaw team, it is reasonable to assume that Catspaw knew BillyVassi was doing something not "honorable".
Would catspaw trade an active good player for a complete inactive? NO WAY IN HELL!!! But he let a player on his team trade him an active player for a complete inactive, using inside information to get it done. That, in my opinion, shows it was known.
That's not actually how "reasonable doubt" works, but your point is well taken. I admit, and already have admitted, that there is evidence to suggest that Cats might have known. But I don't yet believe that he knew the entire situation, and so personally, I don't think that Cats or the Bandits are guilty here.
But Cats would never do that trade himself. He would never let anyone on his team do that trade. He is smart enough to know what was happening. I honestly do not see how that is not seen.
And PS - I will have to read up on reasonable doubt...LOL
its like this: if there is reasonable doubt that someone is innocent then they are innocent
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
it hasnt been disproven either. odds are he knew it was a crappy and suspicious deal. all he had to do was look at the team which isnt hard to believe
While we are arguing about something that happened in Oceania, they're still under Common Law. Under common law, and in America, the very basis of the legal system is that you're innocent until proven guilty...
My job as a prosecutor would be A LOT easier if I could just say, "Well, the defendant hasn't proven that he ISN'T guilty."
Well reasonable doubt would be used, right?
Catspaw posts HB is inactive and wants him gone. Then posts later than the team needs a good backup CB that is active. BillyVassi sees both these posts. BillyVassi offers Catspaw an active CB that would be the needed backup for the inactive HB.
I think reasonably you can see the Catspaw knew that he was dumping an inactive for something needed in return. Since BillyVassi is a player on catspaw team, it is reasonable to assume that Catspaw knew BillyVassi was doing something not "honorable".
Would catspaw trade an active good player for a complete inactive? NO WAY IN HELL!!! But he let a player on his team trade him an active player for a complete inactive, using inside information to get it done. That, in my opinion, shows it was known.
That's not actually how "reasonable doubt" works, but your point is well taken. I admit, and already have admitted, that there is evidence to suggest that Cats might have known. But I don't yet believe that he knew the entire situation, and so personally, I don't think that Cats or the Bandits are guilty here.
But Cats would never do that trade himself. He would never let anyone on his team do that trade. He is smart enough to know what was happening. I honestly do not see how that is not seen.
And PS - I will have to read up on reasonable doubt...LOL
its like this: if there is reasonable doubt that someone is innocent then they are innocent
Ballbright
offline
offline
Possible solution:
--Have Billy and Catspaw BOTH publicly come out and admit and apologize.
--Have both agent's players suspended for the remainder of the season and playoffs.
--PM Bort and have the ill-gotten players released to Free Agency immediately.
--Have Billy and Catspaw BOTH publicly come out and admit and apologize.
--Have both agent's players suspended for the remainder of the season and playoffs.
--PM Bort and have the ill-gotten players released to Free Agency immediately.
joemalaka
offline
offline
Originally posted by Daman
Catspaw is a good dude. he doesnt like the browns but thats not my problem. i know that guy has built this team from dust. joe do u know wat he saw in u? he saw a guy who had a good full back and was a guy who wouldn't try to harm the team in any way. know cats cant trust what he sees anymore because this forum is about to have over 300 posts and its all about hurting this team. u should really think in ur head before u start some thing . everyone on the brisbane bandits is officaily ashamed of what u have done.
Why didn't cats respond to me right away and discuss? Why did he immediately attack? Why did he trade with BillyVassi, sending an inactive to a team when he would never do the same to the Bandits? Is that honorable?
I never threatened the team. I still have never given out game plan info, even though I could tell teams what the Bandits like to do. I will not do that.
Backup Cats all you want..the guy is not as honorable as people think.
Catspaw is a good dude. he doesnt like the browns but thats not my problem. i know that guy has built this team from dust. joe do u know wat he saw in u? he saw a guy who had a good full back and was a guy who wouldn't try to harm the team in any way. know cats cant trust what he sees anymore because this forum is about to have over 300 posts and its all about hurting this team. u should really think in ur head before u start some thing . everyone on the brisbane bandits is officaily ashamed of what u have done.
Why didn't cats respond to me right away and discuss? Why did he immediately attack? Why did he trade with BillyVassi, sending an inactive to a team when he would never do the same to the Bandits? Is that honorable?
I never threatened the team. I still have never given out game plan info, even though I could tell teams what the Bandits like to do. I will not do that.
Backup Cats all you want..the guy is not as honorable as people think.
HaplosDog
offline
offline
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
you could trade them back and this would all be undone
Trade deadline has passed.
you could trade them back and this would all be undone
Trade deadline has passed.
joemalaka
offline
offline
Originally posted by atm490
Here's a new(ish) question...
If Admins reversed the trade(s) between the Bandits and the Thrashers, would everyone still brand the Bandits cheaters?
I think it would be a start.
Here's a new(ish) question...
If Admins reversed the trade(s) between the Bandits and the Thrashers, would everyone still brand the Bandits cheaters?
I think it would be a start.
Ballbright
offline
offline
Originally posted by Daman
not happening.
I wasn't asking you, nor do you have the authority to make those decisions.
Go back to your hole, and continue eating dirt, or whatever it is you do in there...
not happening.
I wasn't asking you, nor do you have the authority to make those decisions.
Go back to your hole, and continue eating dirt, or whatever it is you do in there...
wombat killer
offline
offline
Originally posted by atm490
Here's a new(ish) question...
If Admins reversed the trade(s) between the Bandits and the Thrashers, would everyone still brand the Bandits cheaters?
In my opinion it would prove they are cheaters.
Here's a new(ish) question...
If Admins reversed the trade(s) between the Bandits and the Thrashers, would everyone still brand the Bandits cheaters?
In my opinion it would prove they are cheaters.
bigpimpin123
offline
offline
Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
you could trade them back and this would all be undone
Trade deadline has passed.
im sure Bort can make some kind of exception
Originally posted by bigpimpin123
you could trade them back and this would all be undone
Trade deadline has passed.
im sure Bort can make some kind of exception
You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.






























