I do like your LB Rod Long, don't get me wrong, but I think there are better ways to build LBs. I believe my LB, John Armsteal is a better all-around LB. Not gonna lie though, I had no idea what I was doing when I build him, I made him in season 1, and then left for a while until season 2, then I came back to the game and started playing, and built him with really not direction from anyone, I'd like to compare builds, if you're interested, send me a PM, my build is open, as are all of my builds
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Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Virgin Goldstandard
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Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
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Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard
Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Because scouting bars has meant so much in the past before, right? All it is, is a measure of the amount of points spent in physical attributes. That's it. It doesn't take into account equipment, VA's, SA's, tactics, nor weights of the physical attributes. There is a thread out there experimenting with what attributes seem to raise the scouting bars and it looks like stamina of all things plays an impactful role on raising your Overall bar. We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Because scouting bars has meant so much in the past before, right? All it is, is a measure of the amount of points spent in physical attributes. That's it. It doesn't take into account equipment, VA's, SA's, tactics, nor weights of the physical attributes. There is a thread out there experimenting with what attributes seem to raise the scouting bars and it looks like stamina of all things plays an impactful role on raising your Overall bar. We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
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Originally posted by wallysmith
We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
If blocking really is in the "shed block" formula, then why not train it a little?
We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
If blocking really is in the "shed block" formula, then why not train it a little?
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Originally posted by bigbillyvegas
Originally posted by wallysmith
We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
If blocking really is in the "shed block" formula, then why not train it a little?
Because Jumping/Catching/Confidence/Stamina are all higher priorities, and Strength/Tackling are the primary trainable attributes for younger LB's.
Originally posted by wallysmith
We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
If blocking really is in the "shed block" formula, then why not train it a little?
Because Jumping/Catching/Confidence/Stamina are all higher priorities, and Strength/Tackling are the primary trainable attributes for younger LB's.
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So you're saying you do train it as your LB gets older? Or do you start on SA's and leave blocking until later? Has anyone tried training up (or even capping) blocking and seen it have an effect?
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Originally posted by bigbillyvegas
So you're saying you do train it as your LB gets older? Or do you start on SA's and leave blocking until later? Has anyone tried training up (or even capping) blocking and seen it have an effect?
Not saying any of that at all actually. I've heard of people trying "blocking" builds (mostly with DE/DT) but not having much success with it. All I'm saying is that it's part of the "shed block" equation, but even Bort himself has said it's not a significant factor.
So you're saying you do train it as your LB gets older? Or do you start on SA's and leave blocking until later? Has anyone tried training up (or even capping) blocking and seen it have an effect?
Not saying any of that at all actually. I've heard of people trying "blocking" builds (mostly with DE/DT) but not having much success with it. All I'm saying is that it's part of the "shed block" equation, but even Bort himself has said it's not a significant factor.
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Originally posted by wallysmith
Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard
Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Thanks for the equalizing force. 5 seasons of playoffs and 2 seasons in Pro for that guy alone.. . . .. .
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Because scouting bars has meant so much in the past before, right? All it is, is a measure of the amount of points spent in physical attributes. That's it. It doesn't take into account equipment, VA's, SA's, tactics, nor weights of the physical attributes. There is a thread out there experimenting with what attributes seem to raise the scouting bars and it looks like stamina of all things plays an impactful role on raising your Overall bar. We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
scouting bars, huh. . . .that was one of the primary reasons for making this thread in the first place. People professing how ALLSOME their LBs were based upon their sadly and illfated inflated rush defense bar from pumping strength.
Took a look at your build. I'll gladly forward my build to wallysmith so he can enjoy the comparison and comment on it objectively. Its not even close. My early smart training kept me about as close to fielding the total points similar to a slow build while always fielding an elite player. Which I think should be the goal anyway.
Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard
Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Thanks for the equalizing force. 5 seasons of playoffs and 2 seasons in Pro for that guy alone.. . . .. .
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Because scouting bars has meant so much in the past before, right? All it is, is a measure of the amount of points spent in physical attributes. That's it. It doesn't take into account equipment, VA's, SA's, tactics, nor weights of the physical attributes. There is a thread out there experimenting with what attributes seem to raise the scouting bars and it looks like stamina of all things plays an impactful role on raising your Overall bar. We all know that Blocking is calculated in the "shed block" formula for defensive players, so it may be a reasonable assumption that higher Blocking means a higher Pass Rushing bar. If that's the case, does that mean that LB with higher Blocking has a better build? 99% of those here would say no.
Scouting bars are a ROUGH guide, but cannot be used to accurately compare similarly levelled players.
scouting bars, huh. . . .that was one of the primary reasons for making this thread in the first place. People professing how ALLSOME their LBs were based upon their sadly and illfated inflated rush defense bar from pumping strength.
Took a look at your build. I'll gladly forward my build to wallysmith so he can enjoy the comparison and comment on it objectively. Its not even close. My early smart training kept me about as close to fielding the total points similar to a slow build while always fielding an elite player. Which I think should be the goal anyway.
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Originally posted by Rod Long
Don't put any eqiup on vision, ever.
Can't say I agree with you in the slightest.
Don't put any eqiup on vision, ever.
Can't say I agree with you in the slightest.
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Originally posted by Virgin Goldstandard
Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Bars don't mean jack.
Originally posted by pootytang
Im pretty sure his LB's are playing in pro leagues while yours is in AA, not sure how you can accurately assume yours is better built. If you are just going off of tackles then thats just silly.
Check the bars, I know they don't mean a huge amount, but when I'm sitting at all 51s, and hes sitting at a 48 overall, I can somewhat assume mine is a tad better overall.
Bars don't mean jack.
Underdawg08
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Let this die. no more posts. this build advice is null and void. season 7 was the year of the power back because of this.
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I disagree I think that Rod's input is still solid advice especially in this new "AEQ/ VA generation" of agents, but should you really take anyone's word for step by step intstructions on how to build any position in GLB BETA?? No. I've followed a few things Rod put out, but I followed my own plans and made my own adjustments and my LBs are very successful with their teams in their own right. Take what you want from it and then do you.
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