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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Im just trying to do my best for EE Pro

Yes, at the expense of a different league (AAA1). Gutting is a GLB-wide problem. No reason to invalidate the results of one game when there are literally hundreds of leagues with the same problem going on. There's no reason for you to deserve special treatment that no one else is getting.

Lame move imo.

ROFL, I agree with Ariston on this one. Being part of USA A2 on 2 guild teams. We decided at the beginning of the season to retire all our players and start over due to bad builds. TJKing can verify that info. We went all the way to conference championship and lost.

I actually was hoping to win to send shit up for a change then to send Tjking's gutted team, that ran insanely stupid (attempting field goals every first down kinda thing) gameplans all season. We don't like getting shit in our league just as much as you don't but heh until Bort fixes the whole promotion relegation system you will have it. Just enjoy the easy win next year.

Originally posted by Painmaker
Yes, at the expense of a different league (AAA1). Gutting is a GLB-wide problem. No reason to invalidate the results of one game when there are literally hundreds of leagues with the same problem going on. There's no reason for you to deserve special treatment that no one else is getting.

Lame move imo.

Isnt the point of relegation to keep the worse teams in AAA, then AA, then A and soforth? Instead of the gutted team moving up to Pro for 1 season (Season 5), then down to AAA in Season 6, in my suggested situation in Season 6, this team would already potentially be down in AA, meaning relegation worked. If they were good enough to stay in AAA, then it seems thats where they belonged.

The whole idea of promotion and relegation is to move the worse teams down, so I dont think that the idea is "lame" as you say, but rather in the spirit of the system.

And those other leagues should try to resolve their situations as well. Things wont get any better until people attempt to make it better.

Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Originally posted by Painmaker

Yes, at the expense of a different league (AAA1). Gutting is a GLB-wide problem. No reason to invalidate the results of one game when there are literally hundreds of leagues with the same problem going on. There's no reason for you to deserve special treatment that no one else is getting.

Lame move imo.

Isnt the point of relegation to keep the worse teams in AAA, then AA, then A and soforth? Instead of the gutted team moving up to Pro for 1 season (Season 5), then down to AAA in Season 6, in my suggested situation in Season 6, this team would already potentially be down in AA, meaning relegation worked. If they were good enough to stay in AAA, then it seems thats where they belonged.

The whole idea of promotion and relegation is to move the worse teams down, so I dont think that the idea is "lame" as you say, but rather in the spirit of the system.

And those other leagues should try to resolve their situations as well. Things wont get any better until people attempt to make it better.



Agreed. Pro > AAA > AA > A. As much as agents may fight that, it's the "pecking order" and Pro has more say than anyone else. So if we keep a gutted team in AAA and they whine, oh well. The basic idea of relegating and promoting is to field the most competitive Pro leagues and then by process of relegating the other leagues will be tougher as well. You will never have a conference in AAA of 16 title contenders. With them gaining two relegated teams every year it won't happen. However that is VERY plausible in the Pros where you only GAIN champions and LOSE gutted/farm teams.

Why not aim for the best possible pro league?

Still doesn't change the fact you shouldn't take a promotion that was deserved. Ariston won his conference. Whatever he does at this point is his business. Really what you are wanting is a faster promotion/relegation system. I have no problem with that, I think there are plenty of teams in AAA that deserve to move up and could compete.

Originally posted by dickdogdandy
Still doesn't change the fact you shouldn't take a promotion that was deserved. Ariston won his conference. Whatever he does at this point is his business. Really what you are wanting is a faster promotion/relegation system. I have no problem with that, I think there are plenty of teams in AAA that deserve to move up and could compete.

Give him his trophy then, it's not like that matters. If he has intentions to gut the team, which assuredly we have evidence of, leave them in AAA. Promote the other team in the title game for a more competitive conference. I hate to say it, but fuck Ariston. If he is getting humor out of sending a gut job to the pros, then don't let him do it. Keep his gutted all CPU team on D40 in AAA where it will relegate to AA where it deserve to be.

Originally posted by dickdogdandy
Still doesn't change the fact you shouldn't take a promotion that was deserved. Ariston won his conference. Whatever he does at this point is his business. Really what you are wanting is a faster promotion/relegation system. I have no problem with that, I think there are plenty of teams in AAA that deserve to move up and could compete.

He deserves his trophy, and he deserves his promotion. But what is it worth to him, the only thing left next season to utilize the promotion is a blank roster. Now there is another team that lost the promotion game, but would utilize the promotion.

Why waste a promotion? It is not that we want the promotion/relegation to work faster, more that we dont want it to NOT work.

Exactly, Im not saying dont give him the trophy, he can have it, Im not trying to take anything away from anyone who would actually be on Fox News next season. The issue is that we shouldnt waste a promotion like jumpingjack says .. why promote someone who isnt going to send a team?

I have to admit that watching people get upset over this is a little humorous. But it makes no sense to put in all of the work to make it to pro just for a joke. I've run the team by myself since inception and my GMs have only been in place in an advisor role at best. Of my current GMs there are less than 5 posts by them on my team forum this season and 2 haven't ever posted. If I wanted to make a joke about the promotion/relegation system I could have just posted something on the GLB main forums like all the other jackasses.

The fact of the matter is I earned my promotion. I wasn't aiming to fuck your league over. I wasn't aiming to make a joke or example of how the promotion/relegation system doesn't work. I was aiming to win a championship, period.

You guys bitch a moan like you're the only league in GLB. Get over yourselves.

My god, you missed the point of this thread by a mile. Noone is pissed at you... We just want more competition, not gutted teams.

So, youve earned the promotion, but you decline it, then why did you fight for it? Sure you get your title, no arguement with that. You earned it, but what use is the promotion to you?

Are you the only teamowner in GLB? Get over yourself.

I don't quite understand why you would care what happens to the team once you're gone anyway. Once it's gutted, redistributed to the next guy and re-named, there's nothing about it that is or was yours anymore. Earning a promotion you'll never use and it won't positively effect anyone you know just doesn't make sense to me. You talk about how it's funny that we get upset about it, but you clearly shouldn't care as you won't be here to deal with it. We have a STRONG desire to get this to be a highly competitive league again. This past season blew and we don't want to continue that trend. Why not help the people that are here and that do care by passing this promotion on to someone who will field a competitive team next season and better this for the 700+ agents here in EEP? Why not help out the guys who not only worked hard to earn it (but fell just a bit short), but who still want to play this game? I'm not mad at you, more pleading for your support.

Originally posted by HoustonMark
I don't quite understand why you would care what happens to the team once you're gone anyway. Once it's gutted, redistributed to the next guy and re-named, there's nothing about it that is or was yours anymore. Earning a promotion you'll never use and it won't positively effect anyone you know just doesn't make sense to me. You talk about how it's funny that we get upset about it, but you clearly shouldn't care as you won't be here to deal with it. We have a STRONG desire to get this to be a highly competitive league again. This past season blew and we don't want to continue that trend. Why not help the people that are here and that do care by passing this promotion on to someone who will field a competitive team next season and better this for the 700+ agents here in EEP? Why not help out the guys who not only worked hard to earn it (but fell just a bit short), but who still want to play this game? I'm not mad at you, more pleading for your support.

Won't happen. He prefer to make a mockery of the system. based on that, I hope they do decide to step in and do something about it. I just sent a message to DD about it.

Originally posted by Jumpingjak
My god, you missed the point of this thread by a mile. Noone is pissed at you... We just want more competition, not gutted teams.

Read cap's post. That post was meant to have him quoted.

Originally posted by Jumpingjak
So, youve earned the promotion, but you decline it, then why did you fight for it? Sure you get your title, no arguement with that. You earned it, but what use is the promotion to you?

I don't care if you prevent a promotion or not. My comments are solely based on this league's childish attitude of "Boo Hoo, we have 2 gutted teams in Alpha now. Make an exception for us Bort cause we're special"

Originally posted by Jumpingjak
Are you the only teamowner in GLB? Get over yourself.

I'm not the only one playing GLB, but I'm the only one paying for my account. I'm not paying $150 a month to stroke EE Pro's Collective E-peen.

On a side note, nothing from my post was even directed at you. I have no idea why you felt compelled to even reply.

Originally posted by caponesgun
Originally posted by HoustonMark

I don't quite understand why you would care what happens to the team once you're gone anyway. Once it's gutted, redistributed to the next guy and re-named, there's nothing about it that is or was yours anymore. Earning a promotion you'll never use and it won't positively effect anyone you know just doesn't make sense to me. You talk about how it's funny that we get upset about it, but you clearly shouldn't care as you won't be here to deal with it. We have a STRONG desire to get this to be a highly competitive league again. This past season blew and we don't want to continue that trend. Why not help the people that are here and that do care by passing this promotion on to someone who will field a competitive team next season and better this for the 700+ agents here in EEP? Why not help out the guys who not only worked hard to earn it (but fell just a bit short), but who still want to play this game? I'm not mad at you, more pleading for your support.

Won't happen. He prefer to make a mockery of the system. based on that, I hope they do decide to step in and do something about it. I just sent a message to DD about it.

You guys act as if I have a "Decline Promotion" button. I'd gladly click it if there were one. If bort wants to interfere then it won't bother me a bit, it's not like I'm going to use it. I just find it funny how some of you think that a problem so widespread in GLB only affects you.

So basically you guys are all calling Ariston selfish for wanting him team in PRO without him?

Why dont you look at all of your posts. Every single one of you wants EE AAA to suffer a gutted team so you dont have too. Well what about us? Why do we want the gutted team? We have plenty as it is.

Stop crying, take the sandy tampons out of your pussies, and let Bort decide. Dont bitch on this forum like your momma just slapped you.

The system is in place as it is now and publiclly crying about it wont get you anywhere. You know the proper way to get things done and you stated you already contacted support, dd, etc. WHats the point of coming on here if its not to bitch at Ariston for doing so?

Hypocrites, every single one of you.