Originally posted by GeneralMills92
Originally posted by Mattarchy
well we really should spend some more time and i think get each pos down to like a top 3 or 5 and then do a tally vote where whoever wants to vote can just vote.
right now
FB looks like
East
#1 Cam West (RR)
#2 Tricks R. Fokids.
#3 ....?
West
in the west theres been a few good suggestion but we need someone to step up and nominate a few clear cut guys.
fauk this! tricks bones cam! cam runs more! so of course he has more yrds and TDs!!!
Originally posted by Firesky
I think its fair to count Cam as a FB we decide to give him the ball b/c he's good and also tricks's ypc is higher because he runs less and Cam's ypc is still comparable. no one said that he had to run under 10% to be classified as a FB. also Tricks plays behind a better O-line while Cam just makes it happen. I don't think YPC is something to go by since tricks is in a better system and runs less inflating his average.
we can debate it all day Cam West and Tricks are easily 1 and 2.
also we didn't really start giving cam the ball till just before mid season since our HB's struggled. so it's not like we're using him as an HB entirely. also we pass like 85% of the time. so Cam is only really running it 10% of the snaps. he usually gets between 10-15 and 20 at most depending on the team we faces strengths and weaknesses.
also I think the HB's success has more to do with the O-line than the FB IMO.
I'd say Cam because his rushing stats are stellar and he's a good blocker as well as being 4 levels lower than Trix and on a worse team makes him #1 and Trix a close 2nd.
we pass just as much dude
and btw, this same argument is going on in the KR and PR pro bowl thread, avg is one of the most important things. it means how many yrds he is likely to get on a single carry. in my opinion, that is the most important stat for a HB, and its WAY up there for a FB.
Originally posted by Firesky
alright I guess FB is settled then... I guess Cam could be the rushing FB, and trix could be the blocking one then.
Matt how many more positions do we need to settle?
so no, it is not settled. Tricks blow at blocking. he has hardley any pancakes, and no catching, so he wouldn't be good for a recieving FB either.
ok then I guess Cam will be the rushing FB since his stats show that he's better behind a weaker O-line... Cam bones Trix are you fauking kidding me??? we go by stats not how much they run... and plus you have a better team and O-line so of course your stats would be inflated. Cam has a 5.6 YPC average behind a weaker O-line and ran for 1000 and 4 more TD's than trix, untill trix does that he doesn't make the pro bowl over Cam, Cam is 4 levels lower than trix, plays on a weaker team with a weaker Oline, and they both play in passing offenses. you really have no argument in saying trix bones cam. the stats are all there. and if you wanna use your 6.5 YPC you only ran the ball 116 times to Cam's 200+, IMHO its harder to have a 5.6 over 200 carries than 6.5 on 116, the lower amount of carries inflates your YPC average...
Cam is easily the best rushing FB here. I know trix is your guy so you want him to make it but I mean Cam has the stats behind a weaker O-line; no ones debating how often they run. Cam > trix, anyone who thinks otherwise is mentally damaged...
so what are we gonna have a 2nd team Rushing and blocking FB then? Cam is the #1 rushing FB no one can even argue with his stats. unless someone tops that then I see no reason why he shouldn't be the probowler.
Last edited Sep 3, 2008 14:34:59