Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Firesky
Gunner Stillion, at level 22 he's near the top of the league in TD's and yards. he is a big part of the Retros offense and I doubt they'd have any wins with out him since they have had some trouble running the ball.

Originally posted by GeneralMills92
i think its either got to be otto or wheaties. they have the most yrds and TDs. even if they are passing oriented teams you ca't argue stats.

please, feel free to read the above posts as they may help you better undertsand the situation.

as refuse keeps pointing out, we want stats and reasons. i have no doubt that the retros would suck without Gunner, but you still suck and that's that.

keep in mind that he's level 22 and is prodcing similar numbers to level 29 guys like wheaties. is this done on basis of the entire league or east vs. west?

also Gunner makes our entire team better and we're judging just him and his impact not the fact that our team is subpar.

gunner's stats top of the east in passing yardage, 2nd in passing TD's. that enough for you?

reasons he IS our offense. he puts up numbers like the other guys and is 7 levels lower than them. I think that should be noted. do you really need another reason to put him in the probowl for the Eastern Conference. his impact is very noticable.

I would have to vote for Gunner, with the Retros. Has put up some great numbers, up there with some of the greats.

LMAO....

I thought we had some unbiased owners and players in this league.

this isn't a vote for your own QB thread. you guys need to re evaluate your nominations, it's a little ridiculous to name anyone besides Otto for the west QB pos.

Originally posted by Mattarchy
LMAO....

I thought we had some unbiased owners and players in this league.

this isn't a vote for your own QB thread. you guys need to re evaluate your nominations, it's a little ridiculous to name anyone besides Otto for the west QB pos.

I know that we shouldnt be voting for your own team, but I really feel that he is one of the Best QB in the league.

Originally posted by Bearclaw141
Originally posted by Mattarchy

LMAO....

I thought we had some unbiased owners and players in this league.

this isn't a vote for your own QB thread. you guys need to re evaluate your nominations, it's a little ridiculous to name anyone besides Otto for the west QB pos.

I know that we shouldnt be voting for your own team, but I really feel that he is one of the Best QB in the league.

he may in fact be, until he can put up the numbers to back it, and lead a team to the playoffs, i don't think he belongs here. 86.7 QB rating, up against a few guys well over 100 rating?

Originally posted by Mattarchy
Originally posted by Bearclaw141

Originally posted by Mattarchy


LMAO....

I thought we had some unbiased owners and players in this league.

this isn't a vote for your own QB thread. you guys need to re evaluate your nominations, it's a little ridiculous to name anyone besides Otto for the west QB pos.

I know that we shouldnt be voting for your own team, but I really feel that he is one of the Best QB in the league.

he may in fact be, until he can put up the numbers to back it, and lead a team to the playoffs, i don't think he belongs here. 86.7 QB rating, up against a few guys well over 100 rating?

Just look at the team that he is built around, I know I hate to put down my own team, but he has competed against some of the best secondaries and still put up the same numbers as the best QB in the league. They are just on the verge of being a playoff team. They didnt have a win last year and have turned it around and be an excelent team out of it. I really believes he deserves some conderisation for being voted for the pro bowl team

A player shouldn't be penalised because of his team.Gunner's numbers speak for themselves,He should be in.Nuff said.

Wheaties FTW in the East.

gunner has had a great season, I can't put him ahead of Chambers for the reserve because of that QB rating. Chambers has throw for more TDs and nearly as much yardage with 7 less INTs. His team is also going to the playoffs and there's something to say about that. A teams success plays a huge role in picking the best QBs in the league.

Chambers East reserve.

Originally posted by refusetolose
Originally posted by howyadoin

Originally posted by mpapara


Vote for qb's here and give your 2 cents on why

Refusetolose...my 2 cents are in the above post, you want stats..use the search function like everyone else.

I don't have time to review your players stats lee harvey...that's the point of this thread, to have the owners nominate the guys that are worthy of the awards and back it up with why. Nobody cares nor knows what Josh Chambers skills are and that is why you went to a passing offense. That adds nothing to argue why he is the best QB in the league.

so.... let me get this straight.....

you don't have time to review his players stats......

and yet, we should value your opinion when it comes to deciding whose best?

I'm going like this.

West
#1 Graham
#2 Cannon

East
#1 Wheaties
#2 Chambers

all my backup has been spread throughout this thread.

Originally posted by Mattarchy
I'm going like this.

West
#1 Graham
#2 Cannon

East
#1 Wheaties
#2 Chambers

all my backup has been spread throughout this thread.

its pretty obvious. they have the best numbers. btw Firesky, wehaties is 27, 2 levels lower than the top QBs. But level MAKES A DIFFERENCE. sure he has a great biuld, and when the retors pass 80% of the time and to the same reciever,

he has shown greatness. on a better team, in a different league, and 5 levels higher he would be great! but he is not even close to the best, i'm sorry.

i also don't understand how we can compare graham and Wheaties when they are in different conferences? what good is 1 pro bowl team? we need 2 top QBs, one from each conference. and Wheaties and graham are the best

i am not voting for my QB because he is my QB, he is the best QB and that's why he deserves it.

I think that your comment of how Gunner is no where close to the best is way off. he is just as good and underleveled. if he was on the massacre and the same level as wheaties he'd easily outshine wheaties.

also Gunner only started to pick it up at mid season last year and the start of this one he threw at least 1 pick a game. wheaties is the top just based on stats but I think Gunners #2 since he plays on a lesser team with less of a supporting cast and gets it done just like the rest of them.

We think you're a homer.

look at the numbers. I didn't say he wasn't better than wheaties but I think he is much better than either of you give him credit for. and thats a shame since he is just as good as chambers and you can't see it...