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Unspoken
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I run the Thunder Bay Blue Jays the team he is on and even I am brain storming on what to do. I honestly now think its some type of bug.
 
jwd100iii
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**did not read all posts sorry if repeated***

Was having trouble with my targets. coach took out wr1 wr2 etc and just left the regular wr depth chart and we then had nearly equal targets from wr1 & wr2
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by The Wolf
a lvl 20 WR on our team and a lvl 24 with less speed and agility gets a lot more looks even when they are subbed into his spot and facing the same CB

so you drain the energy of your cb, someone subs in with full energy/morale and faces them, it's not surprising that they would perform decently

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Also this WR has gone up against lvl 16 to 18 WRs with the same results.
probably faster and more agile than you, as has been said. speed/agi -are- your primary stats. lol


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I have watched nearly every replay 5 to 6 times that he has been involved with and there is something not right and a few more skill points in speed and agility don't seem to be the fix because the more I have put in it the worse he has become.
So either get over being self-defeatist or quit logging in to GLB. There's no other answer for your except add more skill points and try to do it wisely.
 
Unspoken
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Originally posted by The Wolf

a lvl 20 WR on our team and a lvl 24 with less speed and agility gets a lot more looks even when they are subbed into his spot and facing the same CB

so you drain the energy of your cb, someone subs in with full energy/morale and faces them, it's not surprising that they would perform decently

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Also this WR has gone up against lvl 16 to 18 WRs with the same results.
probably faster and more agile than you, as has been said. speed/agi -are- your primary stats. lol


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I have watched nearly every replay 5 to 6 times that he has been involved with and there is something not right and a few more skill points in speed and agility don't seem to be the fix because the more I have put in it the worse he has become.
So either get over being self-defeatist or quit logging in to GLB. There's no other answer for your except add more skill points and try to do it wisely.


Well obviously you have not read all the posts. Ok so what happens when he is the number 3 WR and goes in against a drained CB then?
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by Unspoken
Well obviously you have not read all the posts. Ok so what happens when he is the number 3 WR and goes in against a drained CB then?


I've read all the posts, and I answered that. His speed/agility is likely too low to create separation, OR, his vision/catching is too low to get the look, OR, his QB is unable to take him seriously because he wears pink gloves. It's as simple as that.
 
The Wolf
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I wish it was that simple. It doesn't matter what level of CB this guy has been lined up against nor does it matter what settings or what spot he is in. He is not being seen yet all of our other WRs are.

This cant be a build issue for every game and every thing we try and every match up he has had, if that was the case nearly every WR without 75+ speed and 55+ agility would be broke as well. My build is a solid build not dominating but solid and should be getting way more looks then he is right now.


No way a WR with 65 speed, 47 agility, 44 catch, 4 in first step, 4 in quick cut and 4 in head fake wont get separation a few times a game even if matched up against a better CB. If that is considered a broken build then why do WRs with less get more passes and looks?


Most of the advice in here is to better my build (which is an on going thing just like every other build), that is not the answer as the build isn't broken.


And the gloves are red bro, red.
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capeman0623
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it might be the gameplanning because i kno when i was the #1 WR he ran alot of short routes and i was overlooked for the medium and deep passes
 
The Wolf
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We have tried different set ups like you are talking about and none have worked for this player but works great for the other WRs on the team.
 
Djinnt
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Oh, I know. You need more throwing. Similarly to how a defensive lineman learns to shed blocks by raising blocking, if you raise your throwing attribute you'll understand more about why the QB throws, where he'll throw, and maybe it'll strengthen your bond with him and therefor he'll trust you enough to throw it to you.
 
The Wolf
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Oh, I know. You need more throwing. Similarly to how a defensive lineman learns to shed blocks by raising blocking, if you raise your throwing attribute you'll understand more about why the QB throws, where he'll throw, and maybe it'll strengthen your bond with him and therefor he'll trust you enough to throw it to you.


lol, if you would of been first in with that advice I would of trained on it for several nights.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by The Wolf

lol, if you would of been first in with that advice I would of trained on it for several nights.



try going out and having a lager with your QB. have a pleasant conversation, occasionally hinting at how when he throws it to you, you bring it down... tell him he throws beautiful passes... tell him he has pretty eyes... whatever it takes
 
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Here are the receiving stats for all the games after Game #2, when the passing changes took effect - the format is a bit sloppy, but you can still read it:

Name Att Cmp Drop PD Pct. Yards Lng FD BrTk
WR Wye Doubt 73 50 2 11 68% 598 58 32 3
WR JC Wide Receiver 40 25 4 3 63% 302 35 16 5
WR Trace Stealth 34 15 8 10 44% 135 20 7 1
WR Very Fast 31 14 3 11 45% 221 38 12 2
TE Bubba Spanks 27 20 1 7 74% 200 18 16 3
TE Scotty Spitshine 18 15 1 5 83% 174 19 14 3
HB Briian Jones 16 15 1 0 94% 58 12 2 12
TE Stuie V 14 11 1 2 79% 89 15 3 1
HB Runny McRunster 8 7 1 1 88% 31 11 1 2
FB JC FullBack 2 1 1 0 50% 11 11 1 0


I looked over a couple of games. It is strange, for a number of reasons.

If you've really tried different settings, WR Depth Chart configurations and different tactics, the only thing I can think of is energy settings. If you don't want to reveal them in the forum, you can always PM me.
 
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Its not all about your build. Its about tactics as well not only from you but the QB and the offensive game plan vs the defensive game plan. Also if you are the #1 WR this is also taken into consideration because you may be paired against a better CB.
 
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Originally posted by skel1977
Its not all about your build. Its about tactics as well not only from you but the QB and the offensive game plan vs the defensive game plan. Also if you are the #1 WR this is also taken into consideration because you may be paired against a better CB.


Holy if I hear that one more time I will snap. Ok I am the owner of the team he is on and we have tried him at every position on the depth chart. We have changed the QB setting and nothing has worked trust me. We are going to not use the new Depth Chart format cause it seems to me now that it all started when we started to use that. He had a decent season in a tough division last year.
 
The Wolf
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Originally posted by j10er
Here are the receiving stats for all the games after Game #2, when the passing changes took effect - the format is a bit sloppy, but you can still read it:

Name Att Cmp Drop PD Pct. Yards Lng FD BrTk
WR Wye Doubt 73 50 2 11 68% 598 58 32 3
WR JC Wide Receiver 40 25 4 3 63% 302 35 16 5
WR Trace Stealth 34 15 8 10 44% 135 20 7 1
WR Very Fast 31 14 3 11 45% 221 38 12 2
TE Bubba Spanks 27 20 1 7 74% 200 18 16 3
TE Scotty Spitshine 18 15 1 5 83% 174 19 14 3
HB Briian Jones 16 15 1 0 94% 58 12 2 12
TE Stuie V 14 11 1 2 79% 89 15 3 1
HB Runny McRunster 8 7 1 1 88% 31 11 1 2
FB JC FullBack 2 1 1 0 50% 11 11 1 0


I looked over a couple of games. It is strange, for a number of reasons.

If you've really tried different settings, WR Depth Chart configurations and different tactics, the only thing I can think of is energy settings. If you don't want to reveal them in the forum, you can always PM me.


Energy settings seem to be fine and don't affect the other WRs. Stealth seldom finishes a game below 80 and always gets his fair share of game time and never seems to disappear for to long during drives, well except from the QBs vision.
 
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