Warrior General Games

Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA
Originally posted by demonicangel

Originally posted by pelland


Not a big fan of blocking for DE's. Vision is useful but Agility is the KEY!

Bullshit, my DE has well over 70+ agility and soft cap vision, and doesnt do shit.

How low is your speed?

Strength: 51.43 Blocking: 22.41
Speed: 51.47 Tackling: 35.07
Agility: 72.38 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 17.88 Catching: 8.47
Stamina: 34.25 Carrying: 9
Vision: 48.2 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 28.84 Punting: 8

75761 pass rushing tree.

Originally posted by Snipeshow
Originally posted by alfies

Blocking helps you shed blocks, according to Bort. I've never thought about investing SP into it though.

Do you have a link to where he said that?

i think i read that somewhere too

I really think that GLB has a bust or break out tied in to the forumla. I have full sets of equipment for strenght and agility. Ive went one way, went the other way, and ive mixed and matched, I still dont get anything.

I have really come to believe that DE's are one of the big wastes on here.

I have my rush set to elusive using agility. Strength isnt even needed. Very rarely do I engage in a block in pass rushing plays. I never get blocked, but I just cant get to the qb.

Originally posted by demonicangel
I really think that GLB has a bust or break out tied in to the forumla. I have full sets of equipment for strenght and agility. Ive went one way, went the other way, and ive mixed and matched, I still dont get anything.

I have really come to believe that DE's are one of the big wastes on here.

Speed+Vision = I am out level normally by at least 6 lvls and still produce.

Originally posted by kenkaniff
Originally posted by demonicangel

I really think that GLB has a bust or break out tied in to the forumla. I have full sets of equipment for strenght and agility. Ive went one way, went the other way, and ive mixed and matched, I still dont get anything.

I have really come to believe that DE's are one of the big wastes on here.

Speed+Vision = I am out level normally by at least 6 lvls and still produce.

I find it hard to believe though that you have more speed and vision than I do. If you do your lacking in the strength and agility.

Which if you dont have str. or agi. That would be really f-ked up, seeing how you would think you need all of it to have a good player.

Or your player just happen to be that Break Out player I was talking about, and I get hit with the bust type player.

Regardless, you see alot of people mirror alot of builds that have worked, and havent even come close to getting the same results. There is a big issue that is out there, that we dont know about yet.

That looks like an ideal build to me, even without the vision. Can't see why you aren't producing, maybe you just need faster closing speed?


Btw, is that agility with or without your equipment?

Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA
That looks like an ideal build to me, even without the vision. Can't see why you aren't producing, maybe you just need faster closing speed?


Btw, is that agility with or without your equipment?

With it. Since im set on elusive. Like I said I dont get touched on the play, Im just falling short. 50+ speed should be more than enough to get through. Not to include my S.A.'s. That is what im going to work on now, Im just going to pump all my points into them.

Originally posted by demonicangel
Originally posted by kenkaniff

Originally posted by demonicangel


I really think that GLB has a bust or break out tied in to the forumla. I have full sets of equipment for strenght and agility. Ive went one way, went the other way, and ive mixed and matched, I still dont get anything.

I have really come to believe that DE's are one of the big wastes on here.

Speed+Vision = I am out level normally by at least 6 lvls and still produce.

I find it hard to believe though that you have more speed and vision than I do. If you do your lacking in the strength and agility.

Which if you dont have str. or agi. That would be really f-ked up, seeing how you would think you need all of it to have a good player.

Or your player just happen to be that Break Out player I was talking about, and I get hit with the bust type player.

Regardless, you see alot of people mirror alot of builds that have worked, and havent even come close to getting the same results. There is a big issue that is out there, that we dont know about yet.

I have alot more speed and little less vis. Low Str and above soft capped agility slightly.

Excluding vision, my stats are nearly identical to you, yet I still manage a sack here or there. I think you would benefit off Tunnel Vision the most.

Honestly not sure what to tell you, that should be a solid build.

demonicangel I don't know you survive games with your stamina, my level 10 DE has 40 and his energy gets so low after games.

Vision and confidence certainly seem to have helped me out quite a bit.

For the first 3 seasons, I concentrated on STR and AGI, with a lesser focus on speed. In S1, I had 0 sacks in 8 games. In S2, I had 4, and in S3, I had 6. Prior to S4, I bumped vision and confidence both up to 30 (still nothing great, but I wanted them to at least not be a major liability). After 8 games of S4, I have 19 sacks.

Originally posted by Viscount
demonicangel I don't know you survive games with your stamina, my level 10 DE has 40 and his energy gets so low after games.

Thats already too much. Tell your gm to take you off special teams.

There are many ways to build an effective DE.

Vision has some effect for sure, I dont think its the end all be all but you want to have some. Special abilities are whats key I think. My DE is pretty balanced, no ridiculously high stats in speed strength or agility, in fact, hes pretty balanced.

I have seen DE's with 70+ speed 60 agility terrorize though, but its all about the SA's. Tunnel vision I think being one of the better ones.

Originally posted by Viscount
demonicangel I don't know you survive games with your stamina, my level 10 DE has 40 and his energy gets so low after games.

you kidding me?
i have 29 played 62 plays on hard and ended with 75 energy. you dont need past 30

Originally posted by iMan
Originally posted by Viscount

demonicangel I don't know you survive games with your stamina, my level 10 DE has 40 and his energy gets so low after games.

you kidding me?
i have 29 played 62 plays on hard and ended with 75 energy. you dont need past 30

I played a 62 play game and ended with 88 on hard.
Stamina: 31.66