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Originally posted by HuskerAztec
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Slow building is an effective way to get point from training. If you use you skill points it defeats the purpose. If i was slow building I would not use my SP for two seasons.


Yeah you can still kinda half slow build while putting in points. e.g. on my powerback I just chuck all the points into strength. Other stats are not getting SP in them so in a sense they are still getting slow built. I can train carry and it be like I havent spent any, I just have more fun and get better stats in the process
 
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I thought the point of slow building was to softcap the main 2-3 attributes asap. IE, train speed to 18, then softcap it. Then train agailty to 18 and softcap it. So, you have all your SPs in 2-3 skills for the first 6-7 levels. I didn't think it was to train everything for four levels and horde SPs until level 7. If you did that, you completely lose the advantage of hitting the softcap on speed/agility/strength in the first few levels.
 
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Originally posted by Arles
I thought the point of slow building was to softcap the main 2-3 attributes asap. IE, train speed to 18, then softcap it. Then train agailty to 18 and softcap it. So, you have all your SPs in 2-3 skills for the first 6-7 levels. I didn't think it was to train everything for four levels and horde SPs until level 7. If you did that, you completely lose the advantage of hitting the softcap on speed/agility/strength in the first few levels.


Yep, that's how you want to do it. Get it capped asap
 
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Originally posted by rotharek
Originally posted by Arles

I thought the point of slow building was to softcap the main 2-3 attributes asap. IE, train speed to 18, then softcap it. Then train agailty to 18 and softcap it. So, you have all your SPs in 2-3 skills for the first 6-7 levels. I didn't think it was to train everything for four levels and horde SPs until level 7. If you did that, you completely lose the advantage of hitting the softcap on speed/agility/strength in the first few levels.


Yep, that's how you want to do it. Get it capped asap


That's not slow building.

 
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Originally posted by JAKshutdown
Originally posted by HuskerAztec

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Slow building is an effective way to get point from training. If you use you skill points it defeats the purpose. If i was slow building I would not use my SP for two seasons.


Yeah you can still kinda half slow build while putting in points. e.g. on my powerback I just chuck all the points into strength. Other stats are not getting SP in them so in a sense they are still getting slow built. I can train carry and it be like I havent spent any, I just have more fun and get better stats in the process


That's not slow building, it's "soft-capping".

If you're going to slow build a player, you need to save the SP until after the season(s) and train everything during the season.....preferably on intense for as long as possible. You do not buy equipment, even from the start. You save that money to help fund your intense training.

 
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Originally posted by TesT
Originally posted by JAKshutdown

Originally posted by HuskerAztec


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Slow building is an effective way to get point from training. If you use you skill points it defeats the purpose. If i was slow building I would not use my SP for two seasons.


Yeah you can still kinda half slow build while putting in points. e.g. on my powerback I just chuck all the points into strength. Other stats are not getting SP in them so in a sense they are still getting slow built. I can train carry and it be like I havent spent any, I just have more fun and get better stats in the process


That's not slow building, it's "soft-capping".

If you're going to slow build a player, you need to save the SP until after the season(s) and train everything during the season.....preferably on intense for as long as possible. You do not buy equipment, even from the start. You save that money to help fund your intense training.



That's called Bad building.
 
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Originally posted by rotharek
Originally posted by TesT

Originally posted by JAKshutdown


Originally posted by HuskerAztec



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Slow building is an effective way to get point from training. If you use you skill points it defeats the purpose. If i was slow building I would not use my SP for two seasons.


Yeah you can still kinda half slow build while putting in points. e.g. on my powerback I just chuck all the points into strength. Other stats are not getting SP in them so in a sense they are still getting slow built. I can train carry and it be like I havent spent any, I just have more fun and get better stats in the process


That's not slow building, it's "soft-capping".

If you're going to slow build a player, you need to save the SP until after the season(s) and train everything during the season.....preferably on intense for as long as possible. You do not buy equipment, even from the start. You save that money to help fund your intense training.



That's called Bad building.


lol...whatever you say Boy Wonder. I believe I said it was a bad way to build a RB but was a good way for other players. ^2.3
 
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You need to calm down. We obviously had a misunderstanding of term definitions. Slow/soft-capping, whatever.
 
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I didn't misunderstand. You didn't know what you were talking about. That's why I'm here to help you.
 
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Originally posted by TesT

If you're going to slow build a player, you need to save the SP until after the season(s) and train everything during the season.....preferably on intense for as long as possible. You do not buy equipment, even from the start. You save that money to help fund your intense training.


This is an interesting concept. I will investigate this and put it up against the Soft Cap focus concept. I'm not sure how it will pan out. On one hand, you're losing the doubling effect of your leveling bonus, but on the other you're leaving yourself more skill points for other attributes. I am guessing it will be a wash, but then again I always thought that Slow Build w/ ASAP soft-cap was better than normal build with ASAP Soft-Cap and the difference actually is negligible.

Do you train skills to a given level before spending any points or do you just spend all at the end of your D league stint regardless?

 
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Originally posted by TesT
I didn't misunderstand. You didn't know what you were talking about. That's why I'm here to help you.


I'm just glad you're hear to give tips. We need more bad HBs and less good ones, imo.
 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
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If you're going to slow build a player, you need to save the SP until after the season(s) and train everything during the season.....preferably on intense for as long as possible. You do not buy equipment, even from the start. You save that money to help fund your intense training.


This is an interesting concept. I will investigate this and put it up against the Soft Cap focus concept. I'm not sure how it will pan out. On one hand, you're losing the doubling effect of your leveling bonus, but on the other you're leaving yourself more skill points for other attributes. I am guessing it will be a wash, but then again I always thought that Slow Build w/ ASAP soft-cap was better than normal build with ASAP Soft-Cap and the difference actually is negligible.

Do you train skills to a given level before spending any points or do you just spend all at the end of your D league stint regardless?



You just spend them all at the end of your 1st or in some cases your second season. There's some players who will slow build for 2 complete seasons before adding any points.

It's not going to create an uber player with 80 speed after 2 seasons, but it will give you a solid all-around player.Here's what a slow build DE looks like right now...

Strength: 19.64 Blocking: 11
Speed: 19.34 Tackling: 16.5
Agility: 19.67 Throwing: 9
Jumping: 11 Catching: 8
Stamina: 11 Carrying: 8
Vision: 11 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 11 Punting: 8

Level 6 with 40 SP + equipment to add
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Originally posted by rotharek
Originally posted by TesT

I didn't misunderstand. You didn't know what you were talking about. That's why I'm here to help you.


I'm just glad you're hear to give tips. We need more bad HBs and less good ones, imo.



I'm glad I'm hear too.
 
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GRAMMMMMMMARRRR ATTACK! Sometimes you type in haste because you're busy multitasking and owning other things.
 
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