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EagleOtto
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High strength is over rated for a RDE, I think FS isn't the answer though but change direction and shed block are the 2 bug ones, get speed up to 70 on that guy, add some vision and you'll get 3 sacks a game for sure if you go elusive.
For SAs I would have gone 4-8-9-2-0, it would have been cheaper and more effective.
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Pick4six
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Originally posted by Edonidd
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Yes I do, and no it doesn't work.


Man your build is similar to mine, but you have way more SA"s than I do. STR doesnt matter as a RDE eZe471, so your assumption is wrong.

Edonidd, I would get your vision and confidence up and train jumping. Your build really isnt that bad.
 
ahnonamis
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STR isn't as important, but of course it matters, otherwise you're going to be pancaked by tackles, fullbacks, and even half-backs.
 
AnTiNiNjA
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Originally posted by EagleOtto
High strength is over rated for a RDE, I think FS isn't the answer though but change direction and shed block are the 2 bug ones, get speed up to 70 on that guy, add some vision and you'll get 3 sacks a game for sure if you go elusive.
For SAs I would have gone 4-8-9-2-0, it would have been cheaper and more effective.


Agility is more important than speed now, we are already so close to the QB we don't need top max speed, we need that quick acceleration.
 
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Originally posted by ahnonamis
STR isn't as important, but of course it matters, otherwise you're going to be pancaked by tackles, fullbacks, and even half-backs.


No, you wont if built properly. There are many DE's going against top competition that have mid 20's to mid 30's strength that dont get pancaked.
 
EagleOtto
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Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA
Originally posted by EagleOtto

High strength is over rated for a RDE, I think FS isn't the answer though but change direction and shed block are the 2 bug ones, get speed up to 70 on that guy, add some vision and you'll get 3 sacks a game for sure if you go elusive.
For SAs I would have gone 4-8-9-2-0, it would have been cheaper and more effective.


Agility is more important than speed now, we are already so close to the QB we don't need top max speed, we need that quick acceleration.


I disagree with you, speed is still king to get to that pesky QB before he throws a pass or checkdown.

But of course everyone's results may differ, a 70 agility/50speed guy would be pretty nice too.
 
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Yeah it is/
 
hoyaboy1
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I have high agility and first step with mixed (at best) results. Since my DE often hesitates at the snap or goes in an arc to get to the passer I have no clue if first step actually does anything. I'm also thinking about focusing a bit more on speed than agility, since I haven't been getting to the QB as often as I'd hoped.
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Originally posted by EagleOtto
Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA

Originally posted by EagleOtto


High strength is over rated for a RDE, I think FS isn't the answer though but change direction and shed block are the 2 bug ones, get speed up to 70 on that guy, add some vision and you'll get 3 sacks a game for sure if you go elusive.
For SAs I would have gone 4-8-9-2-0, it would have been cheaper and more effective.


Agility is more important than speed now, we are already so close to the QB we don't need top max speed, we need that quick acceleration.


I disagree with you, speed is still king to get to that pesky QB before he throws a pass or checkdown.

But of course everyone's results may differ, a 70 agility/50speed guy would be pretty nice too.


Not to sure about that. I know of a guy where that worked GREAT last year but he hasn't done squat this year.
 
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Originally posted by EagleOtto
Originally posted by AnTiNiNjA

Originally posted by EagleOtto


High strength is over rated for a RDE, I think FS isn't the answer though but change direction and shed block are the 2 bug ones, get speed up to 70 on that guy, add some vision and you'll get 3 sacks a game for sure if you go elusive.
For SAs I would have gone 4-8-9-2-0, it would have been cheaper and more effective.


Agility is more important than speed now, we are already so close to the QB we don't need top max speed, we need that quick acceleration.


I disagree with you, speed is still king to get to that pesky QB before he throws a pass or checkdown.

But of course everyone's results may differ, a 70 agility/50speed guy would be pretty nice too.


Speed is the top speed your player can hit, agility lets you accelerate to it faster. So as long as you have decent speed, agility is more important to hit that top speed right off the line.
 
briano32
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Not positive yet, but I think the speed nerf/agility boost this season has been overstated. The high speed guys still seem to be getting the better results from what I've seen.
 
Buster H.
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My agility is about 10 points higher than my speed and I have been enjoying a pretty nice season so far. As far as strength, I don't think you need much @ RE if you ONLY want to be a pass-rushing specialist, but if you want to be able to shed some blocks and be effective against runs, as well as a good pass rusher, you're going to need more than 20-30, and maybe a point or three in the containment tree.

At least, that's been my experience in the league I'm in.
 
EagleOtto
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This is why DEs are so fun to play you can actually play them 3 or 4 different ways.
 
ZeroTolerance
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Is it worth pushing agility to the second soft cap early on a pass rushing RDE, or should I focus on balancing out agi/spd and then working on secondary attributes?
 
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Originally posted by ZeroTolerance
Is it worth pushing agility to the second soft cap early on a pass rushing RDE, or should I focus on balancing out agi/spd and then working on secondary attributes?


I absolutely prefer to cap 1 attribute at a time to get the most out of the .5 or w/e points you get with each level naturally.
 
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