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Enkidu98
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Or, the other defense could have had different settings and while you performed one way in the first game, you performed differently in your second. There are a plethora of reasons why your team would perform better or worse, and you would perform better or worse that are not explained by your setting of a switch that Bort has not yet said he has implemented to the general populace but only to the D-Leagues.

In both cases the defense you faced was rated as a'21' for its Passing D.

Micro Machines you faced 4 natural CB's with three being level 5 and one being level 2.

Your Second Game was against a team with 6 natural CB's with the level spread being 9, 8, 5, 5, 5, 3.

The Build difference between a level 9 CB and a Level 5 CB is significant. They can increase a number of stats that might not have increased a generic overall rating, but could make your receivers have much more difficult opposition. Things like Jumping and Catching. Let alone a difference in the squads abilities to set their own settings.

For example, My own CB has won awards each of his seasons of play for the most Ints or PD's. But I can tell you for a fact I know his build is not much different than is typical or those on my team. What I do know is how to scout my opposition and to see wht receivers I am likely going to match up against and set my playstyle to focus on what will get me the best stats and I will do so on games where it is not important for me to play more careful.

If you look just at skill bars the top 2 CB's for both teams look about equal though the second team you faced they both rank at 24 for Pass Defense which means good agility and speed likely. They may have more jumping as well.. who knows.

There are just too many factors to go on, so I think you are off target re: lofty passing. Bort has been good at actually letting folks know when he puts changes into effect.

You received the level of response from me you did because it had been explained to you multiple times, but did not sink in.

 
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There is only one more point I would like to add. If your playing with lower level players, there isn't going to be a ton of consistency. Builds are still way off from being affective every game. Who knows what one player is focusing on in those early stages of the game.
 
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Originally posted by zollins5
Originally posted by mgbl3

Originally posted by Enkidu98




Now, on this page #5, Bort says the following.. I'll quote it for you too moron.

Originally posted by Bort



- I've added another option for QB passing - pass style. This will allow the QB to determine how he throws the ball.

I am just about to roll this and the new pass rushing code out to the D-League server to start with. If it all works out there, I'll sync it over to the other leagues.


Now, within that quote I did do something. I made something BOLD and Italics so that your poor reading and reasoning faculties might be drawn to the relevant portion of his post.


Harsh post dude. Nowhere in Bort's post did he specifically state WHEN he'd be syncing it over. His post could have meant he'd test it in D leagues then sync it to the others in a week or so. Or it could have meant he'd upload the code, then as long as everything is still running fine, immediately go sync it over. I certainly agree that just becasue it's there it doesn't mean it's in effect, but based off Bort's word usage theres no way to tell whether or not it is.


I don't think anyone in here is picking up what Enkidu98 is laying down...

Those post from bort are from the most recent updates that he has done. That being said, go to the last page of updates... http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262&page=6 .....now look at the last update. I am pretty sure that no where in there does it say he has rolled this out into any other leagues yet. I understand what your saying mgbl3, he could roll it out at anytime, however, if he die, then that would be considered an update and he would post it in there.


I don't think you got what I said. Bort's post could have meant his intention was to go add it to the D leagues then go sync it over IMMEDIATELY after assuming there weren't any errors. If this was his original intention than there would be no need to post another update.
 
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I get what your saying. Hard to say I guess. I just feel that he would come out and say that those are active
 
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Originally posted by Ilok
Well Enkidu98, since I'm in a master program in a liberal arts field, I'm pretty sure I can grasp the english language perfectly. In fact, posting personal attacks on a message board kind of shows a lack of intelligence, lack of human decently and a lack of maturity. Especially personal attacks which were unprovoked.

Like it was stated earlier, Bort said he was going to test the setting out in D League first, he never stated when he will implement it into other leagues. I ran a test, switching only one setting. Playing about the same level defense, I went from a completion percentage above 50 percent with four deflections to a completion percentage of 28 percent with 14 deflections by trying out lofty pass. My QB and my WRs are all well over the average level of the league and the team I ran the test on was one of the lowest level teams in the league.

I'm guessing I'm talking with a child, so I'm not going to go any further into this.



"In fact, posting personal attacks on a message board kind of shows a lack of intelligence, lack of human decently and a lack of maturity."



Lack of human decently? Haha. Yeah, that masters program is doing wonders for you.



And guys, if he's really going to deny an announcement that BORT made, and try to pretend like he knows better then him, then whats really the point of arguing with him?
 
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Originally posted by mgbl3
Originally posted by zollins5

Originally posted by mgbl3


Originally posted by Enkidu98





Now, on this page #5, Bort says the following.. I'll quote it for you too moron.

Originally posted by Bort


This's old,Bort already said it's already implement in some league not only in D-League.You just need to find upto-date thread.

- I've added another option for QB passing - pass style. This will allow the QB to determine how he throws the ball.

I am just about to roll this and the new pass rushing code out to the D-League server to start with. If it all works out there, I'll sync it over to the other leagues.


Now, within that quote I did do something. I made something BOLD and Italics so that your poor reading and reasoning faculties might be drawn to the relevant portion of his post.


Harsh post dude. Nowhere in Bort's post did he specifically state WHEN he'd be syncing it over. His post could have meant he'd test it in D leagues then sync it to the others in a week or so. Or it could have meant he'd upload the code, then as long as everything is still running fine, immediately go sync it over. I certainly agree that just becasue it's there it doesn't mean it's in effect, but based off Bort's word usage theres no way to tell whether or not it is.


I don't think anyone in here is picking up what Enkidu98 is laying down...

Those post from bort are from the most recent updates that he has done. That being said, go to the last page of updates... http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2262&page=6 .....now look at the last update. I am pretty sure that no where in there does it say he has rolled this out into any other leagues yet. I understand what your saying mgbl3, he could roll it out at anytime, however, if he die, then that would be considered an update and he would post it in there.


I don't think you got what I said. Bort's post could have meant his intention was to go add it to the D leagues then go sync it over IMMEDIATELY after assuming there weren't any errors. If this was his original intention than there would be no need to post another update.


 
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Got a PM from Jed saying Bort moved it over immediately. Just waiting for Bort to confirm.

And human decency has to do for respect for others. People get on a message board and treat people way different than how they would in real life. It's the internet bad ass syndrome.
 
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Originally posted by Ilok
Got a PM from Jed saying Bort moved it over immediately. Just waiting for Bort to confirm.

And human decency has to do for respect for others. People get on a message board and treat people way different than how they would in real life. It's the internet bad ass syndrome.




I know what you meant. I was just pointing out that you didn't say decency, you said "human decently," and I found that pretty hilarious given that you were going on about being in a Masters program and saying how you grasp the English language perfectly.
 
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Originally posted by Anthony18Wa
Originally posted by Ilok

Got a PM from Jed saying Bort moved it over immediately. Just waiting for Bort to confirm.

And human decency has to do for respect for others. People get on a message board and treat people way different than how they would in real life. It's the internet bad ass syndrome.




I know what you meant. I was just pointing out that you didn't say decency, you said "human decently," and I found that pretty hilarious given that you were going on about being in a Masters program and saying how you grasp the English language perfectly.


I believe it is called irony...
 
Ilok
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I believe its called a typo, and I don't care what level of education you're in, you make them.
 
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Originally posted by Ilok
I believe its called a typo, and I don't care what level of education you're in, you make them.




True.....but come on man, if you're going to talk about how you grasp the language perfectly, and how you're in a masters program, then you can at least check your message for errors. Just makes you look like a fool.


But yeah, I got a laugh out of it, so I can't really complain
 
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Not that anyone will say sorry or anything, but those of you that said I needed reading comprehension on what Bort said in the update and that Lofty pass is not or was not in the game:


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Aug 7, 2008 00:26:08Quote

Originally posted by Ilok
still nothing on when/if the lofty/bullet pass is in effect. I'm pretty sure it's been in since Bort made the original post, I would just like confirmation since the majority of QBs on the QB position board says it is still not in the game, the option in advanced tactics actually does nothing,


It's been in the game since I added it as an option.

read it here http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2289&page=231#5993072

Lofty pass was an option when I ran the test, and I will say it again, Lofty pass is more trouble than it is worth.



On another note:

Oh yeah, I also think it is funny I made a typo at that moment, but still it is just a typo. I will admit what I said was pretty foolish I was just pissed at the time. I'm pretty good at not making mistakes the first time I type it, so unless it's for a grade or I'm getting paid, I rarely proof read stuff I write. I'm sure you can go back to all my post and find at least five or six instances of me using than for then, cause that is my most common mistake in writing.

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zollins5
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I will be the first to say sorry lol. I was actually hoping to beat you here lol. The way it read was that it hadn't been rolled out yet. But you were right. Sorry. Just don't let it happen again lol.
 
Ilok
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Hey, I'm right like like 1% of the time. I've peaked early so chances are you will best me for the rest of the season.
 
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Yup, I'll eat crow. My bad for believing Bort. He'd been very good at letting us know when something like this was shifting from being tested to being moved into working.

 
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