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Only key comment to ask about is how is "best" defined?

Cause if you read my thread on the Tim Harper call out for example, I would rank teams that have the very first generation of players as their own "ringers" as I call them to be much lower.

In terms of who is the toughest to beat in a sim game, flat out, well then that's different, I would possibly rank the Mustangs in the top 3, but when you make a category for the "best" team in GLB, to me that means the complete umbrella of EVERYTHING, and i mean everything that goes into what a team's value is in terms of being the "best" in a general sense.

And my criteria for that would include sooo many things, which would be very time consuming to get a feel for, well many would be flat out impossible, whereas others could be uncovered with more time and effort.

So I think to keep it accurate you just need to define your group clearly and what the criteria is and such.

K-Zoo #1!

Originally posted by chad13
It's tough to compare between conferences since they only play 1 inter-conference game per season. Just curious, how come Philly is above BSB if the Bullies are still in the playoffs?

We kept it closer than BSB did against K-Zoo. A LOT closer. After watching the outcome of the last game, I don't think it's too big of a stretch to say that the K-Zoo/Philly game was the Bort bowl and the next game was a formality.

Wow, this ALMOST got me hook, line and sinker... great fishing attempt.

Its a good list but IMO you playoffs mean 2 much in your equation.Not get mw wrong playoffs are important, but you make them mean everything. Just because you got beat by so and so does not mean your the better team just on that day you where the better team. For example DDL beat the pushovers in the regular season and they beat us in the playoffs. We beat then by 13 and they beat us by 7. Because they beat us in the playoffs does that make them better? No. Because we beat them by more points does that make us better? No. How ever those 2 thing so make some type of factor in the final rankings. I would like to see how you calculate the rankings. Just because some one makes it to the championship game does not mean there a better team then some of the others. The best example it the NYG. Are they the best team in the NFL? No. Not even close. Top 10 maybe. However using the way your factoring the playoffs they would be ranked #1.

Dont get me wrong now. Its a great list how ever you asked for help and thats what Im giving you. I think you should make up and equation that brings in accounts or (win %) (Conference Difficulty) (League Difficulty) (Avg level of the players you selected(Good list to use)) (Playoff ranking) (Point spreads vs playoff teams) cause truthfully not all the USA Pro teams are the best teams. How ever you have like 13 of them up there. If you want you can message me personally I would love to talk to you about this more. Maybe share some Ideas to better your list.

I believe he plans to add statistical analysis and perhaps a voting system down the line...

But, given that this is a head-to-head and not rotisserie-style game, I don't have a problem with his weighing playoff results a bit heavily. It would look kind of funny if his rankings had say Chicago Mustangs at #1 overall and Kalamazoo at say #5 right now, wouldn't it?

Obviously, if he plans to keep this list up, better information will be accumulated as the data set is increased (i.e. more games are played). Nothing will ever be perfect (unless of course TSE does it, since he is perfection personified it seems) but this is not a bad start IMO... even if I do disagree personally with a few rankings.

Originally posted by CTap
I believe he plans to add statistical analysis and perhaps a voting system down the line...

But, given that this is a head-to-head and not rotisserie-style game, I don't have a problem with his weighing playoff results a bit heavily. It would look kind of funny if his rankings had say Chicago Mustangs at #1 overall and Kalamazoo at say #5 right now, wouldn't it?

Obviously, if he plans to keep this list up, better information will be accumulated as the data set is increased (i.e. more games are played). Nothing will ever be perfect (unless of course TSE does it, since he is perfection personified it seems) but this is not a bad start IMO... even if I do disagree personally with a few rankings.

I never said it was bad and um TSE would find a way to make it perfect lol. However I dont think if Stangs where 1 and k-zoo was 5 would look weird if it was based on some kind of math.

I think the playoffs part of the equation should carry more weight because during the regular season there are more variables of teams taking different strategies. For example some wait to boost while others don't, some try different tactics to see how they work, and so on. The playoffs are the only part of the season where everyone tries their best.

Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by chad13

It's tough to compare between conferences since they only play 1 inter-conference game per season. Just curious, how come Philly is above BSB if the Bullies are still in the playoffs?

We kept it closer than BSB did against K-Zoo. A LOT closer. After watching the outcome of the last game, I don't think it's too big of a stretch to say that the K-Zoo/Philly game was the Bort bowl and the next game was a formality.

I wasn't necessarily disagreeing. I posted that before the Bort Bowl so it seemed odd to put you guys above a team that was still in the playoffs.

Originally posted by GeneralMakaveli

I never said it was bad and um TSE would find a way to make it perfect lol. However I dont think if Stangs where 1 and k-zoo was 5 would look weird if it was based on some kind of math.

I think I could come close! lol

I would do it differently though, there's a glut of teams that can say they have phenomenal records, great stats, close to the highest levels, so it's the other things that make teams special that I would factor in. I would heavily weight the teams that didn't have any of their own players on the team or very few, that would be a big qualifier. Also, if two teams are comparable and one team has only 10 unique agents and another has 20, and another has 30, having more agents to me is a value in itself and an extra credit accomplishment, things like that. Or if a team was all friends where they knew each other, that would carry a big penalty etc. Monetary assets and stadium size would be important tiebreakers too.

Ideally, a short questionnaire in each forum asking a few background questions to get a few of the miscellaneous pieces of data out could help.

Of course nobody would like my rankings because I feel our team is at or near the top of the list on virtually every area you can compete at in the game, and the sum of that would put us overall #1 or #2, and then people would think it's biased. I just dont believe that you can judge a team by the very raw basics, there's a lot more that contribute to their accomplishments and value in my ranking system theory that can't be seen by just glancing at a record and 3 second roster looksee.

So basically TSE, we're number 1 on your list??

WOOHOOO!

I would have us at #2 right now out of respect to KZoo for the title win. But we would take #1 next year at some point, hopefully!

Originally posted by SteelersInsider
So is this correct then for the top USA PRO teams?

1.) *Kalamazoo Coyotes - Level 26.2 - (14-2) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=18 (beat Nasty, Pushovers in playoffs)
2.) Philadephia Pushovers - (14-2) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=17 (beat Bullets, DDL in playoffs)
3.) *Bourbon Street Bullies - Level 24.3 - (13-3) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=8 (beat Brute Squad, Extreme, Saints in playoffs)
4.) San Antonio Saints - Level 26.2 - (14-2) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=11 (beat Dump Trucks, Spartans in playoffs)
5.) Detroit Demon Lions - Level 25.8 - (13-3) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=88 (beat DC Warpath in playoffs)
6.) Detroit Nasty - (13-3) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=21 (beat Mustangs in playoffs)
7.) San Jose Spartans - (12-4) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6 (beat Athletics in playoffs)
8.) Washington Extreme - Level 25.8 - (10-6) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=13 (beat SuperBowlers in playoffs)
9.) Chicago Mustangs - Level 26.7 - (12-4) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=27
10.) Tecmo SuperBowlers - (13-3) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=65
11.) Golden State Athletics - (12-4) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7
12.) DC Warpath - (12-4) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=62
13.) Dayton Brute Squad - (11-5) USA Pro - http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=35

(obviously weighted heavily for playoff performance)

Galaxy Aces missing is conspicuous... maybe next year huh?

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
I would have us at #2 right now out of respect to KZoo for the title win. But we would take #1 next year at some point, hopefully!

Sorry TSE, but that won't be happening.

Oh really? We shall see!