Warrior General Games

Originally posted by kjoyner96
It depends on the team. If you have less then 75 at the end of a game then your stamina is too low. If you have 83 or more left after the game then your stamina is probably too high, and you need to focus on other attributes.

I can train on relaxed for two nights and recover from 70 back to 100, so why do I have not enough stamina?

Originally posted by jtoj
Originally posted by Zarkoviyx

I don't know why stamina is such a big deal. You only need around 28-30 stamina for an SS when playing on hard.



No way. You need at least 35.

Currently my SS plays about 45-50 plays on hard with 30 stamina. If you split time between you and backup (my backup gets 32-37 plays) then you really don't need a lot of stamina. At the end of game my SS is between 82 and 88.

My guy regularly plays 50+ games with ~30 stamina, is always good to go come next game. Usually ends around 75. More stamina does help you stay fresh longer though, so you'll have let of a 'fatigue' stat hit when you need it most, at the end of games.
I can see why a tad more stamina would be nicer indeed, but the other attributes take on a bigger role for me.

Originally posted by Dachpappe
Originally posted by kjoyner96

It depends on the team. If you have less then 75 at the end of a game then your stamina is too low. If you have 83 or more left after the game then your stamina is probably too high, and you need to focus on other attributes.

I can train on relaxed for two nights and recover from 70 back to 100, so why do I have not enough stamina?

You have to look at the game, but my experience is that if I have 70-75 then I missed important plays in the 4th quarter because of my stamina. Our team tactics are set to favor the starters in the 4th and with a lead of less than 21 points. So I want to be out there for those plays, because I am several levels better than my backup.

We were giving up big pass plays late in the game in the middle of the season and I was typically not on the field for those plays. In those games I was ending with stamina between 69-74. When I moved my stamina up a couple of points we quit giving up the pass plays. My backup just wasn't fast enough to prevent those late plays with a tired CB group.

Yeah, it's not about how you bounce back necessarily, it's how much you're on the field. How many plays are you getting per game is the main question? The reason the backup is splitting time is cuz you don't have enough stamina.

Well...if backup and starter were at about the same level (i.e. +/- 2), you both would do fine, if you had a few points less in stamina? Correct?

Originally posted by Dachpappe
Well...if backup and starter were at about the same level (i.e. +/- 2), you both would do fine, if you had a few points less in stamina? Correct?

That's how I look at it. As long as plays were distributed somewhat equally. This is a valid strategy for a lot of positions, as it keeps the fresh guys in the game longer. Only works if you guys split plays pretty evenly though, otherwise the lower stamina will hurt you.

Originally posted by Zarkoviyx
Originally posted by jtoj

Originally posted by Zarkoviyx


I don't know why stamina is such a big deal. You only need around 28-30 stamina for an SS when playing on hard.



No way. You need at least 35.

Currently my SS plays about 45-50 plays on hard with 30 stamina. If you split time between you and backup (my backup gets 32-37 plays) then you really don't need a lot of stamina. At the end of game my SS is between 82 and 88.

Over the season, my SS went from about 27 stamina to 31.5. He averaged 69.4 plays a game this season. Most games he played nearly 80, but there were a couple where he didn't have that many because the other offense had a lot of 3 and outs. He always plays hard. His energy is usually in the mid-70s, upper-70s.

coming from a ss newbie, everything that has been posted thus far has been great. much appreciated.

Going back to the speed/vision discussion, it depends on whether you are an SS or FS really. FSs are usually covering WRs and creating double-coverages on deep receivers (usually the speed guys on the opposite team). Also, they generally start a little further back from the LoS than the SS. Therefore it would be more important to them to have high speed, so they can cover the back-end well and get down to the play (if it goes short) quicker. SSs are typically playing closer to the LoS from the start, and they are usually only covering a TE, or helping in run-support, so they would need to be able to work out, through vision, whether they need to help take down the HB, or lock-down the TE. As the TE is slower than the WRs, speed isn't as important.

FS: Speed/agility/vision

SS: Vision/speed/agility

Originally posted by Zarkoviyx
Originally posted by jtoj

Originally posted by Zarkoviyx


I don't know why stamina is such a big deal. You only need around 28-30 stamina for an SS when playing on hard.



No way. You need at least 35.

Currently my SS plays about 45-50 plays on hard with 30 stamina. If you split time between you and backup (my backup gets 32-37 plays) then you really don't need a lot of stamina. At the end of game my SS is between 82 and 88.

I have 39 in stamina.
I get in 75ish on average plays and have 80 energy left over.

Originally posted by Spike25
Going back to the speed/vision discussion, it depends on whether you are an SS or FS really. FSs are usually covering WRs and creating double-coverages on deep receivers (usually the speed guys on the opposite team). Also, they generally start a little further back from the LoS than the SS. Therefore it would be more important to them to have high speed, so they can cover the back-end well and get down to the play (if it goes short) quicker. SSs are typically playing closer to the LoS from the start, and they are usually only covering a TE, or helping in run-support, so they would need to be able to work out, through vision, whether they need to help take down the HB, or lock-down the TE. As the TE is slower than the WRs, speed isn't as important.

FS: Speed/agility/vision

SS: Vision/speed/agility

Agreed.
I may even out agility in front of speed, from what I've experienced/seen.

Well on the team I play on their is very little difference between backups and starters (maybe a lvl or 2 at most) so backups and starters both have above 35 plays (starters get plays in the 40s and 50s while backups get plays in the 30s and 40s. We tweak the energy settings to do that. It makes the team stronger.

Originally posted by smarlow
coming from a ss newbie, everything that has been posted thus far has been great. much appreciated.


That was the purpose of the thread. I am glad it has been helpful

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