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Originally posted by coyote4848
I know I am going to get some flack about this......but I still think Favre is one of the most overrated QBs that has ever played. I mean, he is a good QB, but he's not in the same league as the GREAT QBs of all time. And he is not even comparable to Manning or Brady.

I like watching Favre, and the Favre magic is always fun too, but, let's be honest here......he's really just very good....not great.

Peyton Manning is the SINGLE most overrated QB of ALL FOOTBALL HISTORY. The networks were sucking his dick the day he got drafted, and they're still sucking his dick every time they bring his name up on the news to this day. How about you put ol' Peyton up against the Bart Starrs, or Joe Montanas, or maybe a Warren moon here and there and see just how he stacks up. I don't think the guys needs to get praised as the best QB of all time (like they actually DO SAY in the news here in Indiana like lemmings) simply because he won ONE Superbowl...wow, let's see him do it on a team with no pass protection. His statue-standing pocket-passing ass wouldn't be able to put one foot in front of the other under extreme pressure, as is proven when he IS under pressure by a great defense...

anyway...big ben...all I gotta say...young, dumb and full of...crash motorcycle, whatever...ligit QB's can't be based on what they have done, its when...bart starr vs. brady?...totally defense....change is a bitch for QB's...giants superbowl, hello...big ben got my vote...watch and learn...STEELERS ROCK!!!

Originally posted by skibodragula
anyway...big ben...all I gotta say...young, dumb and full of...crash motorcycle, whatever...ligit QB's can't be based on what they have done, its when...bart starr vs. brady?...totally defense....change is a bitch for QB's...giants superbowl, hello...big ben got my vote...watch and learn...STEELERS ROCK!!!

I like big ben but he can't win a game passing the ball like other QB's can. I think he relies on the running game a little bit to much.

Peyton is over rated? Hmm I don't know man, he has like 5 years straight throwing it for more than 4000+ yards? I think he is the best QB in the game right now. I don't think he is really bad under pressure, Brady is bad under pressure but I really don't think Peyton is. But it's just my opinion. Could you please get us some facts or videos to convince us?

Watch a Colts game instead of ESPN's Peyton Show every day and you'll figure it out...

Originally posted by turnerhero
Watch a Colts game instead of ESPN's Peyton Show every day and you'll figure it out...

I watch Colts games a lot. Please name an active QB who doesn't play bad under pressure.

...Brett Favre? haha...that's easy. He was the best at making something happen when everything turned to shit in the pocket, hands down.

Originally posted by turnerhero
...Brett Favre? haha...that's easy. He was the best at making something happen when everything turned to shit in the pocket, hands down.

I said active :-p. He is retired, remember? hahaha got ya :-p

Originally posted by turnerhero
Originally posted by coyote4848

I know I am going to get some flack about this......but I still think Favre is one of the most overrated QBs that has ever played. I mean, he is a good QB, but he's not in the same league as the GREAT QBs of all time. And he is not even comparable to Manning or Brady.

I like watching Favre, and the Favre magic is always fun too, but, let's be honest here......he's really just very good....not great.

Peyton Manning is the SINGLE most overrated QB of ALL FOOTBALL HISTORY. The networks were sucking his dick the day he got drafted, and they're still sucking his dick every time they bring his name up on the news to this day. How about you put ol' Peyton up against the Bart Starrs, or Joe Montanas, or maybe a Warren moon here and there and see just how he stacks up. I don't think the guys needs to get praised as the best QB of all time (like they actually DO SAY in the news here in Indiana like lemmings) simply because he won ONE Superbowl...wow, let's see him do it on a team with no pass protection. His statue-standing pocket-passing ass wouldn't be able to put one foot in front of the other under extreme pressure, as is proven when he IS under pressure by a great defense...

I know it's easy to go out on a limb and call someon overrated, but come on.....Peyton! I am not even a fan of his, but I am a realist.

Rating of 94.7 career.
306 TDs to only 153 INTs.
completion ratio of 64.2%
over 40,000 yds passing.

and a rating of 97.7 in the postseason for his career.
overrated?! C'mon man.....look at the facts.

You can only gauge a player by the team he is on. And don't forget, when Peyton came to the Colts, they were one of the worst teams in the NFL.......which also proves that he is a Great QB.

Actually, the Colts were the worst team in the NFL at the time......hence the 1st pick and Peyton.

i think that the best quarterback of all time is jim mcmahon...i mean look at the facts. who else could the hand the ball to walter like he did? and that hairband...dude, that was awesome. and have you seen the superbowl shuffle video...mondo awesomeness. mcmahon hands down wins this arguement.

Jim McMahon
I'm The Punky QB, known as McMahon
When I hit the turf, I've got no plan
I just throw my body all over the field
I can't dance, but I can throw the feel
I motivate the cats, I like to tease
I play so cool, I aim to please
That's why you all got here on the double
To catch me doin' the Super Bowl Shuffle

Originally posted by Cocky Mfer
Jim McMahon
I'm The Punky QB, known as McMahon
When I hit the turf, I've got no plan
I just throw my body all over the field
I can't dance, but I can throw the feel
I motivate the cats, I like to tease
I play so cool, I aim to please
That's why you all got here on the double
To catch me doin' the Super Bowl Shuffle

I am ashamed to say that I remember that Bears video.

lol, yep it was tragic

Originally posted by turnerhero
...Brett Favre? haha...that's easy. He was the best at making something happen when everything turned to shit in the pocket, hands down.

Not sure which Favre you were watching, but when the pocket broke down and he was under pressure was when he went 'gunslinger' and threw incredibly ill-advised passes. His WRs made him look good by somehow snagging a bunch of those wild throws. He did some great and athletic things as a QB (but let's put his ironman title to bed already - Jim Marshall, a DL who REALLY took some punishment on every play, started 282 games in a row), but good under pressure was not one of his positives.

Steve Young and Joe Montana were great at handling pressure, and a lot of that credit has to go to Bill Walsh's version of the WCO. Marino was a rock in the pocket. But if you want the best ever under pressure it was Johnny Unitas. (As long as you overlook the SB vs. Joe Namath and the Jets)

Originally posted by bgm1969
Originally posted by turnerhero

...Brett Favre? haha...that's easy. He was the best at making something happen when everything turned to shit in the pocket, hands down.

Not sure which Favre you were watching, but when the pocket broke down and he was under pressure was when he went 'gunslinger' and threw incredibly ill-advised passes. His WRs made him look good by somehow snagging a bunch of those wild throws. He did some great and athletic things as a QB (but let's put his ironman title to bed already - Jim Marshall, a DL who REALLY took some punishment on every play, started 282 games in a row), but good under pressure was not one of his positives.

Steve Young and Joe Montana were great at handling pressure, and a lot of that credit has to go to Bill Walsh's version of the WCO. Marino was a rock in the pocket. But if you want the best ever under pressure it was Johnny Unitas. (As long as you overlook the SB vs. Joe Namath and the Jets)

And another guy that actually knows his QBs.....yay.