Warrior General Games

Originally posted by tpaterniti
Does this mean that high strength and carrying don't impact hurdle?
That's a trick question


https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3936433

Originally posted by
Bukowski- (follow up to hurdle) So it's only jumping based? It doesn't take into consideration the other factors of a broken tackle, like carrying/strength/agility?

Bort - Yeah, avoiding the tackle does. But to see if you can use the hurdle skill, you need some jumping to make it more likely.

Apparently, for Hurdle specifically, no it does not. However, you don't actually care how you break the tackle, so if you want to break more tackles, then yes.

Remember that Hurdle is an add-on, if the tackle you're trying to break happens to be diving. Take all the usually tackle breaky stuff, add some Jumpyness to your score. I believe the explanation was Hurdle SA = chance to fire. Jumping ability = amount of boost.

If you have Hurdle of 2, and Jumping of 80, then you'd almost never get a large boost to breaking a diving tackle.

If you have Hurdle of 12 and Jumping of 20, then you'd almost always get a small bonus to breaking diving tackles.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4731373&page=2#43573212

I think the rest of the hurdle info is lost forever....

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4376675&page=3#39485215
Originally posted by

Does the hurdle SA serve as a constant bonus to breaking diving tackles (aka improves your break tackle roll) or is it a separate roll? Follow up question, does having higher physical skills like jumping improve this chance/roll or is it totally based off the SA?


Pretty much everything you want to know about hurdle has already been answered:

http://www.glbwiki.com/qa/search.php type in search word Hurdle

everything is a trade-off and it generally is hard to find attributes to trim from the core build to really do something like a 70 jumping Hurdler that isn't a liability. but this isn't news to anyone. so what to cut to make the best attempt at it?


ehb: more speed/agility and to a lesser extent vision = more of the interactions with defenders are diving tackles rather than regular tackles since, yknow, your dot is always attempting to keep more distance as the defender closes. but if anything, speed's value kind of tapers above 160 for what it costs unless you are actually doing something speed focused, it's commonplace that a dot with less speed moves the same or faster in real gameplay with better supporting attributes than a dot with more speed. just don't want to reduce speed to the point where it means significantly less diving tackles.
phb: people still build phb's pretty fast, but i suspect way less tackles are diving tackle attempts. are diving tackles natively of lower quality than regular tackles? SHOULD phb's be more focused on avoidance than 100+ natty strength?

jumping = natural bonus to avoiding diving tackles regardles of hurdle? as a regular part of the game, right? i think this is why some final training points in the last season often go into Jumping as a popular choice, even if it's a fraction of the value of other attributes, can train it up a few points quickly

lower the shoulder = add-on as well, right? its effectiveness contributes to the broken tackle regardless of how the tackle is broken (natty or SA), e.g. a power thru that succeeded with 10 in Lower The Shoulder might've failed without LTS? i could be totally wrong but if i'm not then 4-6 points feels mandatory as a value-add


i always cut vision to try new builds. confidence already neglected because i'm not the best math-dotbuilder and you either get to 40 or you don't touch it. so those 2 neglected, and lower than average stamina, and a few points off strength and speed, and you could see how a 75-80 Jumping PHB or EHB could really do? the only thing is it's running with low vision and you're kind of just hoping to see how many diving tackles are broken rather than create more of those opportunities, so might be a PHB thing

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