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melon27
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I think you are confused. I did run my offense as normal, same as the game I beat Florida Frenzy to win the Pro Tourney.


As my therapist says, “maybe they should lower their expectations”

For the record I’ve always dreamed of firing you, so this whole thread kind of makes my nether region tingle.

I motion for wise to be banned, do we have a second to pass the motion!?
 
coachingubigr
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1.wisegate
2. tactictsgate
3. Idotaxesgate
4. Itstaxseasongate
4. probablydidntcheatgate
5. ntzonegate
6. fbsdontpassgate
7. strongeigate

That's all I've got for now. Not especially good at this. Everyone respond with their favorite
 
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
are we that much of a narcissist to post a conversation from somewhere...needing compliance from the general community that no one really cares about?


Wise a narcissist? Never!!
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Do you agree with the takeaways from your friend and teammate Brewnoe in the OP?

The last couple paragraphs accusing me of being a shitty OC is a terrible take, but fine for people to have that opinion.

But I'm asking you, more on your thoughts of the first few paragraphs accusing me and SN of some sort of collusion/game throwing scandal.


you definitely shit the bed when the gold medal game came around and thats a shame. you made zero effort and thats a big red flag aftyer you reaching out to g75 wanting to step in and be apart of this team. so not sure if you cheated or what you did or didnt do. i do know you did not try and thats bullshit. that alone opens the door for others to wonder wtf you even were there? why did you want to be if you didnt give a dam?
 
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TL;dr

Fwiw... Based on the title alone, I'd guess yes.

You dirty sumtabitch

 
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Originally posted by Brewnoe

The TSW game was either collusion, or extreme naivety. Go watch the game. I have a dozen times.

See how Seattle put out a defense no DC in their right mind would use, unless they knew exactly what was coming. 7 dots on one side, 4 on the other. And that's being generous as the off side safety was sprinting towards play side off the snap on the first fucking tick, in a immediate zone across the entire damn field. Leaving just the NT/DT, DE on that side, and a single cover CB v WR. 8 vs 3. NO one does that, no one. That's not Seattle being some kind of genius, that's having the other team's playbook, at your finger tips - where the O here was a clone of the one you ran on the same team. Though I'm guessing the one on TSW actually had some 3rd / 4th quarter time management logic, score based calling, unlike the bare bones preset looking one on Hawks?

So no, I don't buy for a fucking second that the loss was legit. Either Seattle spied on your tactics, and saw you made no changes at all on TSW, and made the HUGE gamble that you were doing the same thing on Hawks too. Or you told them you were making no changes for either team. And didn't make the same communication here. And that would be collusion.

As far as the rest of it? I don't like the "even if I had put any effort in, wouldn't have mattered" vibe. Yes there is randomness in dotball. But letting opposing DCs clamp down and hoping auto-adjust finds a hole for you? Seems lazy, yes. That is the word I would use. If you were self-scouting, why was the SB Big counter sweep still getting called? It averaged 2.1 yards for the season (excluding CPU games), and had almost a dozen TFLs? Or the scatFB being a 100% passing tell? Or the Strong I having basically one play out of the formation, letting DCs TEE off on it.

So TL;DR - yes, I told G I'd pull my dots when their contract was done, if you were back as OC. Because I have zero faith you would put any effort in. And yes, your OAI and packages were deleted by me, before G removed you. Back on Day -3. Not Day 1.

I'm in the middle of tax season, as a tax accountant IRL. I'm still making the time to log in, at midnight ...




I just want to know what these horrible Ds are that nobody in their right mind would run, because I assure you they are still in my DAI & I need to fix them ASAP Last season was my first season back after a couple years off & I spent most of the season fixing overall AI glitches and tweaking plays.
 
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Originally posted by POOPERDOG7
you definitely shit the bed when the gold medal game came around and thats a shame. you made zero effort and thats a big red flag aftyer you reaching out to g75 wanting to step in and be apart of this team. so not sure if you cheated or what you did or didnt do. i do know you did not try and thats bullshit. that alone opens the door for others to wonder wtf you even were there? why did you want to be if you didnt give a dam?


First off, it was the silver medal game, Hawks didn't make the gold game. TSW won gold over the London Exiles.

Second, the Gambler kept talking about gameplanning for 40-60 hours a week which seems nuts and is not a pre-requisite for success. I OC towards results, not towards making 500 shadow adjustments every 2 days that no one notices except me. Surely I did not commit some sort of blood contract to put in minimum hours to coordinate a team in a AAA season. By any metric besides "did the Hawks win AAA gold", the team was well coordinated on offense last season. Two teams playing each other of which I OC both, can only give a neutral conclusion on my ability to OC since only one team can win.

But at the end of the day, whether you think I'm a bad OC, or whether you think my process of how I handled a AAA season is bad, doesn't really matter. Your opinion on what makes an offense good is not very well informed given I have seen your offenses.

What matters are the idiotic accusations by Brewnoe about collusion and cheating, which he somehow came to that conclusion after watching a AAA sim of a 3 point loss, a dozen+ times.
 
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Originally posted by SeattleNiner


I just want to know what these horrible Ds are that nobody in their right mind would run, because I assure you they are still in my DAI & I need to fix them ASAP Last season was my first season back after a couple years off & I spent most of the season fixing overall AI glitches and tweaking plays.


 
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keep it up wise your are becoming a bigger tool then i remember. I will not speak for brew nor G they are in the position to speak for themselves, i can only speak that you had opportunity and drop the ball and yes was not gold medal game, i stand corrected but we had the juice and for whatever reason came up short(you choked away the game) you toot your own horn on how dam good you are for years in this game and had a very good team and made dam sure to come up short, why i ask? cause it wasn't pro? cause it wasn't worth your time? my question is then why did you want to be a part of the team in the first place?

i think thats what kills me more than anything else. At the end of the day your fired!!! and its a good thing, and you decide to run onto this forum and spew about it is another entire side of you that shows everyone you are that kid we all grew up with that was picked last and took your ball and went home. sheesh grow a pair already. alraight have a good day, and feel free to scrim my team IB turds they will be more then happy to play with any of your super Oc'ed teams.
 
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Originally posted by POOPERDOG7

had a very good team and made dam sure to come up short, why i ask? TSW also had a very good team, and the dots legitimately played better that day

cause it wasn't pro? Because when two good teams play each other, only one can win

cause it wasn't worth your time? Objectively, it was not worth my time to OC a team for a single AAA season, win the pro tourney and earn a promotion to Pro, then be fired on the eve of the Pro season. I did not and would not have signed up for such an arrangement.

my question is then why did you want to be a part of the team in the first place? I originally reached out about OC'ing MM since the D was good but the O was struggling. Feedback from Gambler and Brew was that the Hawks are a better fit and had better dots to make noise in Pro, while MM was about to hit decline. So I joined under the assumption of OC'ing the team in Pro
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Please find my responses in Bold above. None of this has anything to do with the BS "Hawks lost because Wise/SN colluded/cheated" stuff though, so it's a bit of a red herring.
Edited by WiSeIVIaN on Feb 20, 2026 16:32:53
 
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Originally posted by coachingubigr
1.wisegate
2. tactictsgate
3. Idotaxesgate
4. Itstaxseasongate
4. probablydidntcheatgate
5. ntzonegate
6. fbsdontpassgate
7. strongeigate

That's all I've got for now. Not especially good at this. Everyone respond with their favorite


I like this one, maybe taxseasongate? or AAAtaxseasongate?
 
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I know wise well and I know is not a cheater. Is an excellent OC (when doesn't throw picks anyway).

Hawks is a good team but seems not so great they think, losing easily their first Pro game. They could lose from TSW because is a team with very good dots drafted from an entire organization. Nothing to see here, let's close this thread and move on!
 
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
I know wise well and I know is not a cheater. Is an excellent OC (when doesn't throw picks anyway).

Hawks is a good team but seems not so great they think, losing easily their first Pro game. They could lose from TSW because is a team with very good dots drafted from an entire organization. Nothing to see here, let's close this thread and move on!


ahhh i was waiting for you to chime in just a matter of time. now we can close this thread says the king of queens.
 
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I'm just here for the testicle kicking. When does that start?


 
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I personally don't believe for a second that Wise intentionally cheated or threw anything. Sometimes sims are just strange. Also, I sell out defensively like that in the playoffs frequently.

Maybe he was lazy (likely), but he doubt he cheated. Just my $.02
 
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