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Ravenwood
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I agree, Tremele, the product has never been as good. The only thing the game is missing now, IMHO, is more agents and more teams. I agree, a little advertising now could go a long way. An email outreach to former agents (explaining the new, accelerated build process) would go even further.

There are plenty of examples (myself included) of former agents who have poked their head back into the game after being away for many years, got intrigued with the new changes, and stuck around. I think that's a huge well of potential 'new' customers for the game.
Edited by Ravenwood on Jan 1, 2025 09:34:04
 
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Not to mention this is a great time of the year to advertise for this game.
 
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Originally posted by tremele
I browsed your thread and I’m sorry but the problem is the user base you posted this to. The pro leagues have the top coaches and they want the top players. They’re not going to spend anytime personally to coach anyone up, they’re already too busy. It’s more of a here is the info, get good.

Dotball has never been better. I played from season 2- 20 and only completed a few builds. I came back just before the server crash and spent 6 seasons I think ready to hit level 79. Took forever, then the crash lol. Now it’s way better and I enjoy building dots quite a bit. I reached out to my old friends to tell them but never heard back on getting them back. But the reality is I don’t care about a low user base. Right now I say I build above average dots at best, you bring more builders and then I’m quickly below average or average .

If there was actual care about injecting new life then you wouldn’t have the best known and highly cherished agents taking the easier and more fun builds. I see all the time these people on here build only QBs, WRs, RBs, etc… but never or rarely waste their time on positions like lineman. That’s for the peasants. Some even do it with just multis, so literally are providing nothing to the game besides links to information that is in most cases links back to the main forums lol.

It shouldn't be on the GLB userbase to build the demand up though. Bort and co need to build the user base up though, little advertising could go a long way. They have a much better product than they did 15 years ago.


 
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Originally posted by Ravenwood
I agree, Tremele, the product has never been as good. The only thing the game is missing now, IMHO, is more agents and more teams. I agree, a little advertising now could go a long way. An email outreach to former agents (explaining the new, accelerated build process) would go even further.

There are plenty of examples (myself included) of former agents who have poked their head back into the game after being away for many years, got intrigued with the new changes, and stuck around. I think that's a huge well of potential 'new' customers for the game.


I was gone for about a decade. Life just got in the way but around S100 I got the itch. When I came back I had no idea how much had changed...not sure how many of those email addresses are still active, but it's easy enough to send an email blast out. Couldn't hurt
 
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Originally posted by BagO'Chips
it's easy enough to send an email blast out. Couldn't hurt


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TJ Spikes
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iirc, Bort said they did that and it was more expensive than anticipated with very little or no return.

I don't remember if that was Discord or some random thread somewhere.

 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
iirc, Bort said they did that and it was more expensive than anticipated with very little or no return.

I don't remember if that was Discord or some random thread somewhere.



I've used Constant Contact for work before, but the more I'm reading into it a one-time email blast is more involved than it seems. SendGrid would work for setting up recurring emails or maybe even Mail Chimp would work to send 1 singular blast out. But I guess you risk being blacklisted if you send the emails from your main domain and mail server so you'd need to set up new domains and an IP address. Then it's a process of ramping up the emails sent over time, "warming up" the domain to avoid being flagged as spam. I have no clue what the cost would be. Though I can say I've spent more money since returning to GLB than I did when I first joined
 
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Originally posted by jglam
I've used Constant Contact for work before, but the more I'm reading into it a one-time email blast is more involved than it seems. SendGrid would work for setting up recurring emails or maybe even Mail Chimp would work to send 1 singular blast out. But I guess you risk being blacklisted if you send the emails from your main domain and mail server so you'd need to set up new domains and an IP address. Then it's a process of ramping up the emails sent over time, "warming up" the domain to avoid being flagged as spam. I have no clue what the cost would be. Though I can say I've spent more money since returning to GLB than I did when I first joined



That's one of the perks for using a third party like Constant Contact--it keeps your "main" email identity from being labelled as spam.
 
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From a business perspective, 10 guys paying $1,000 is always a better target than 1,000 guys paying $10, always.

As a builder of many dots, the increased speed of development has done more to improve the experience than anything I can remember in my almost 15 years here, which is crazy to say. Right now the game has reached a balance where almost any time I log on I have little things I can do with my players, but rarely is there anything I absolutely have to do. That's a rare balance to achieve. At the same time Bort has minimized a lot of the mindless clicking for things like EQ upgrades and training with great auto-upgrade options and tabs. I also feel more likely to try new builds because the build cycle is only half as long, so if I make a guy I don't like, it's pretty quick to get a new one up and running.

Another issue is just brain drain. A lot of WL guys that had AIs built and kept using them over and over lost them when the servers crashed. In many cases those represented a decade of work and they didn't feel like rebuilding them. In some cases, they probably didn't exactly know how. It took me several seasons to rebuild my defensive AI because it had been so long since I actually worked on it. I just kept making small tweaks, but had not built actual plays for close to a decade.

The offensive play builder has also added a fresh dynamic.

All in all, a lot of great changes have been made since the servers crashed and it's a shame it took that happening to bring them about, because they have been a huge positive for the game.
 
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Thanks for your post Tpat!
 
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Approximately what season was the last for the World League?
 
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Season 99 I believe.
 
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season 108...
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4851780&page=1
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Yeah, it did get re-named "Champion League" in 104 but was basically WL.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/announcement.pl?id=954

Before the crash of 99 was the last real partial season of WL. It was kind of thrown back together in the new 99 but (IMO) never fully recovered. Then got it the "CL" moniker for the 104 rollover. And that lasted through 108.

The new system exposes more teams to the top talent so they can grind away at the process of going from good to great. RC26 also doesn't have to play himself 8 times a season anymore. It was getting pretty bad with the top owners with multiple teams all in 1 league.




Edited by TJ Spikes on Jan 5, 2025 08:20:12
 
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Originally posted by Ravenwood
I agree, Tremele, the product has never been as good. The only thing the game is missing now, IMHO, is more agents and more teams. I agree, a little advertising now could go a long way. An email outreach to former agents (explaining the new, accelerated build process) would go even further.

There are plenty of examples (myself included) of former agents who have poked their head back into the game after being away for many years, got intrigued with the new changes, and stuck around. I think that's a huge well of potential 'new' customers for the game.


I do like a lot of the changes that have been made since the last time I was fully active and engaged with this game. As someone that has come back after over a decade away, it definitely seems like it is in a much better place, but the lack of teams and leagues is something that I hope can be rectified and fixed over some time. Getting previous agents to come back to the game would be optimal along with advertising for new people to hop on to play as well

 
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